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Originally posted by lexclu um... right... ban smoking outside... gfy ontario gov. and fed gov... paternalism at its best... if pollution was the concern... lets ban industry, cars, open fires, bbqs... this is a half measure... if you want to ban tobacco.. do it... or is the gov. addicted to tobacco tax revenue? lex

dont give them any ideas....

they already floated the idea of banning BBQs in toronto a few years ago.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 for now but thats how these current bans got started. Lobbyists.

Then what did you mean by
"Give them an inch they take 1000 km..." ?

They haven't taken anything. They're lobbyists - they don't "take" in the way you're implying.

I'm a smoker and I'm in favour of a total ban on tobacco. Let's make it illegal and drive it all undergroud just like we did with every other drug. Let's do alcohol too while we're at it.... chances are more people have been killed by drunks then by second hand smoke.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Skipper Then what did you mean by "Give them an inch they take 1000 km..." ? They haven't taken anything. They're lobbyists - they don't "take" in the way you're implying.

the lobbyists encourage the government to take away rights as demonstrated here.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I'm a smoker and I'm in favour of a total ban on tobacco. Let's make it illegal and drive it all undergroud just like we did with every other drug. Let's do alcohol too while we're at it.... chances are more people have been killed by drunks then by second hand smoke.

You are right. We should bring back prohibition. The mafia needs some new business angles! Because yes, it worked so well in the 20s didnt it?

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 You are right. We should bring back prohibition. The mafia needs some new business angles! Because yes, it worked so well in the 20s didnt it?

We're on the same page here Jay, I was trying to note the abserdity of it by taking it an extra step.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Jayx1 dont give them any ideas.... they already floated the idea of banning BBQs in toronto a few years ago.

hahaha i remember once trying to start a nice bbque with my family on a park.. and alot of policeman surrounded us asking us to stop the fire..

but yeah.. instead of banning smoking in certain places.. they shud make cigarretes illegal and kill the problem at once.. i wouldnt agree with that.. because alot of my friends smoke.. but those "smoking bans" are cheap excuses to protect the people (from cancer) and their pockets (freom loosing money)

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Originally posted by Skipper Where does the article say ANYTHING about the Ontario government banning smoking on patios? NS, Newfoundland - yes Ontario lobbyists - yes Government - no

nice use of caps... lol... to be fair however i would have gotten it if it were just regular text...

um.. ontario and the canadian government have been on an anti-smoking campaign for a while now... and paternalism is a bitch... any anti-smoking conversation that is had i think of the canadian government and the ontario government specifically... i couldn't care less what happens in NS... but the fact is that once one of these precedents are set by any other province.. ontario will follow suit... and when ontario follows you can bet that the fed gov will too...

lex

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Originally posted by mushyflowa hahaha i remember once trying to start a nice bbque with my family on a park.. and alot of policeman surrounded us asking us to stop the fire.. but yeah.. instead of banning smoking in certain places.. they shud make cigarretes illegal and kill the problem at once.. i wouldnt agree with that.. because alot of my friends smoke.. but those "smoking bans" are cheap excuses to protect the people (from cancer) and their pockets (freom loosing money)

making cigs illegal will just give more business to the mafia.

Maybe they should try striking a true balance and letting ADULTS decide for themselves.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 You are right. We should bring back prohibition. The mafia needs some new business angles! Because yes, it worked so well in the 20s didnt it?

hahaha.. i was thinking about the same thing.. houses made from wooden boxes used to transport the so calles alcohol in boxes..

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Originally posted by girllovingtvibe I am a non smoker now and am happy that there is no smoking indoors (to be fair). However, to ban it like this is kind of absurb. azzes. b4 they do this perhaps they should start with the pollution that is being created in other areas....argh....

exactly...public places of business and entertainment, fine.

"outdoors" or in your own home...no. that's crossing the line from public to private.

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Originally posted by MarkT exactly...public places of business and entertainment, fine. "outdoors" or in your own home...no. that's crossing the line from public to private.

but like i suggested long ago, once the anti ball starts rolling you cant stop it.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill