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Originally posted by Freak Not hard at all. Ive played long sveral hour nights with no monitors and no split cue. You adapt very quickly- but this is a great exercise as you never know what you might encounter out in clubland...... Will do this in a few days time on the rotary and post it.

I think he means no monitors at all.. like zero sound other than the headphones...

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Originally posted by wee_rooney stick your ears to the needles to, u can usually hear the percussion

I have a question for you so...

My needles seem to make a lot of noise.. eg. I can hear the tiss tiss tiss quite blatantly. Now i'm new enough to dj'ing and have no friends who spin so was wondering whether or not this is normal as when i'm playing a 'set' (far from it yet.. but i try) i'm always aware of the cue'd track on the other table making too much noise, the needle that is.

Could it just be my needle or is it normal that you'd hear the needle's 'music' at lower volume levels..

hope that makes sense, and sorry for the thread hijack..

I would have thought using the needle's sound would have been the best way of beat matching without hearing anything, or eq'ing out the lows and bringing the song in ever so slightly.. See where it's at and slow/speed it up accordingly...

Not sure if you're allowed to use earphones or not, ah re-read the whole thread and i get it now. By monitors i thought you'd still have main speakers silly me..

Basically a proper on the go mix, could be very funny if it all went tits up!

nelly

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Originally posted by dinoXpress I think he means no monitors at all.. like zero sound other than the headphones...

oh, i thought he meant use speakers, but no headfones!

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Originally posted by n3lly

it is normal. im not sure whether the amount of weight set on your needles affects it or not, try adjustin your weight and see!

but it is normal to hear that hissing sound, especially when your speakers arent playin too loud.

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Originally posted by wee_rooney oh, i thought he meant use speakers, but no headfones!

I thought the same but re-read the thread and from what others think.. Well i dunno i'm kinda confused! lol

From what i've gathered now,

you have no Speakers to play out on. Only your headphones. And you can't split cue, eg. You can only listen to one song or the other.

So you'd basically be switching from one track to the other and then slowly fading the cued track in when you thought they were beat matched. While recording all this and listening to it later?

Correct?

nelly

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Originally posted by wee_rooney it is normal. im not sure whether the amount of weight set on your needles affects it or not, try adjustin your weight and see! but it is normal to hear that hissing sound, especially when your speakers arent playin too loud.

cool cheers.. My problem is i know no one with proper knowledge of decks and how to set them up properly so i've just read as many reviews as possible to get an idea.. I know i have too much weight on them, but the needles aren't the best needles and i need to buy new ones. (and new headphones, and SSL, and a monitor the cost!!)

nelly

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Originally posted by dinoXpress I think he means no monitors at all.. like zero sound other than the headphones...

I am aware of that.... still not hard. I mixed for several years purely in the headphones flicking between the two sources and never using monitors or ambient sound

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Originally posted by Freak I am aware of that.... still not hard. I mixed for several years purely in the headphones flicking between the two sources and never using monitors or ambient sound

No sound other than the hoeadphones? like ZERO..

That would never happen in a club.

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I must have imagined it then

I mixed for a long time with headphones on both ears- not using split cue, and flicking between channels as described, with the monitors turned fully down. I did not cue to the sound from the system at all. This was in clubs not my bedroom. Thats how I initially learnt.
I believe thats the whole point of this post- to encourage people to encounter situations that may be new or unfamiliar to them so they can cope with potentially unexpected things.

I mean seriously... you are arguing with something I am telling you has happened in my personal experience? wtf......


ps- Turnmills(london ) has soundproof Dj booths. Turn the monitors down ='No sound other than the hoeadphones? like ZERO..'

Last edited by Freak on Dec-04-2005 at 18:04

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Originally posted by Freak ps- Turnmills(london ) has soundproof Dj booths. Turn the monitors down ='No sound other than the hoeadphones? like ZERO..'

do you know what there reasons are for that? sounds like a shite idea! but considerin its one of the best clubs in London they must have a good reason, id think.

have you played there? isnt it hard to interact with the crowd

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Originally posted by Freak ps- Turnmills(london ) has soundproof Dj booths. Turn the monitors down ='No sound other than the hoeadphones? like ZERO..'

That sounds like both the best and worst idea I've ever heard...

What is it like to play there? i.e. what Rooney said about Crowd interaction... I mean, I'm guessing it's pretty easy to tell if you can see the crowd, but does it kill the experience at all for you personally not being able to hear them?

I, personally, think that would be great conditions for playing in (Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like a basically perfect monitoring setup), and the only reservation I'd have about it is the aforementioned crowd issues...

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