Originally posted by DJ Shibby
A dub uses just one phrase or the chorus if vocals are present, and turns it into a cool effect, or hammers home the coolness of the phrase...
A 'Dub' doesn't have to do that....
Jan-07-2006 08:56
toshirozawa
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Location: Ontario
Dubs have a deeper, more 'groovy' sound to them. Most of the time the lyrics are removed, but not completely. They are sometimes used as vox.
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Jan-07-2006 09:11
SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by toshirozawa
Most of the time the lyrics are removed, but not completely. They are sometimes used as vox.
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What the fuck are you talking about?
What the fuck what? What did you not understand?
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Jan-07-2006 21:03
knoxy5000
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Location: Darlington England
Re: Re: Dub vs. Remix
quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Yep. I don't think that the Dub necessarily even has to be remixed. It can be the same exact song as the original, just without the lyrics.
Dont some dubs still have parts of the chorus of lyrics in, not a full instrumental, although some are
I think he means the actual sound of the voice is used, but not as words, rather as a voice making a tone...
example: Avril Lavigne - I'm With You (leama & moor dub)
Jan-08-2006 01:30
SYSTEM-J
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I know what you mean. That's vocoding- you blend two sounds together, so a spoken word can be warped into a tune or whatever. Orbital - You Lot, for example.
However... that's not what he said. He said "the lyrics are sometimes used as vocals". Lyrics are the words of the vocals. How can lyrics sometimes be vocals?
What about a Dubmix? Or more frighteningly, a Redub?
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Jan-08-2006 01:52
TwiloThunder
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Australia
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I know what you mean. That's vocoding- you blend two sounds together, so a spoken word can be warped into a tune or whatever. Orbital - You Lot, for example.
However... that's not what he said. He said "the lyrics are sometimes used as vocals". Lyrics are the words of the vocals. How can lyrics sometimes be vocals?
Not necessarily vocoding...just using the vocals are sound rather than words...they don't have to be vocoded at all.
Lyrics = words
Vocals = sounds made from the mouth but not necessarily spoken or sung words (ie. the vocals in PvD - Nothing But You)
Jan-08-2006 02:26
Chris Larkin
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Wiltshire, England
quote:
Originally posted by TwiloThunder
Lyrics = words
Vocals = sounds made from the mouth but not necessarily spoken or sung words (ie. the vocals in PvD - Nothing But You)
Actually, the vocals in Nothing But You do have proper lyrics, ableit sung in German:
"jeg har ingenting men jeg har alt nar jeg har deg"
[I have nothing but I have everything when I have you]
A better example might have been Matt Darey feat. Izzy - Eternity, which I don't believe mean anything (although they might), or Andy Moor - Halcyon, which has a vocalist singing "Halcyon, we are flying", but played backwards.
Jan-08-2006 10:55
knoxy5000
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Darlington England
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Larkin
Actually, the vocals in Nothing But You do have proper lyrics, ableit sung in German:
"jeg har ingenting men jeg har alt nar jeg har deg"
[I have nothing but I have everything when I have you]
A better example might have been Matt Darey feat. Izzy - Eternity, which I don't believe mean anything (although they might), or Andy Moor - Halcyon, which has a vocalist singing "Halcyon, we are flying", but played backwards.
I don't think that the Dub necessarily even has to be remixed. It can be the same exact song as the original, just without the lyrics. 
