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globalelectro
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: United States of Pork

Ok, final tracklist

Pryda - Human Behaviour (Original Mix)
Bedrock - Santiago (Bedrock's St. James Mix)
Situation 2wo - Way2tite
D-Nox, Beckers - You're a Star
Seb Fontaine - Do the Do
Stretch n Vern - Beats n Bones
Chriss Source - Hugs N Kisses
Hybrid - I'm still awake (Planet Funk remix) (Dub)
Luke Chable - Ride
Willy San Juan - Losing You.
Jes ven Deari - Sireinia

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Ishkur
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

My opinion: add more tracks. I am not impressed that you can play 11 songs back-to-back. You should at least try to double that number, and mix them better.

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stefanoc
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: CA

1. an 80 minute mix should be approximately 12-16 songs depending on track lengths.

2. play whatever you enjoy. dont ask what people like and dont. your mix isnt a request show. plus, you will nbever play what everyone wants because everyone likes something else. so posting the tracklist here and asking if it should be in the set isnt the right question, because theres always someone who will dislike a track or a few in the set. you cant do anything about it.

3. what you should be worried about is positioning the tracks in the set. so if u want to build up the music from slow, you start with the slow songs in the genre first. you know what i mean.

4. the mixing style is what will make the set stand out from others. use the eq wisely.

5. i dont know if you have started mixing yet, but i personally dont suggest this kind of mix. i mean a set for one style of music is annoying/boring. no mean to offend u because ive done this as well. i have experienced that when im only trying to mix a set of only a certain genre, i get bored and get a little clueless as where im taking the set. minor changes in the style is way better i figured. not only it will be harsher on you to mix only a certain style, but if u listen to it afterwards it will sound a bit boring. if you mix 2 styles, set seems to be more adventurous.

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slinkyhead
Still a tranceaddict.....



Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Kilburn, London, England

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
Halcyon totally didn't go in there anyways.


Rob Mooney - Feelin Electro (Valentino Kanzyani Remix)

There, that'd work well.


blimney, didnt realise Mooney would would known on the other side of the pond. Good song, and good bloke too, see him out round Bournemouth/Portsmouth.

You seen any of the other releases on the punchfunk label. I really like Jon Gurds stuff too

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Ishkur
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

quote:
Originally posted by stefanoc
1. an 80 minute mix should be approximately 12-16 songs depending on track lengths.


No it shouldn't. It should be as many or as few as you want, but generally if the aim is to get people to listen to your mix, and not the music that makes up the mix, logic dictates that you should at least try to do something special with it. For superstar status, 20 tracks is a good minimum.

quote:
Originally posted by stefanoc
2. play whatever you enjoy. dont ask what people like and dont.


b-b-b-b-b-b-but what about that "reading the crowd" secret hard-to-master skill that only DJs know how to do and no one else?

quote:
Originally posted by stefanoc
3. what you should be worried about is positioning the tracks in the set. so if u want to build up the music from slow, you start with the slow songs in the genre first. you know what i mean.


Yes. Don't ever let spontaneity get in the way. Pre-programmed sets are what everyone likes. Also, it's much better to "read the crowd" that way.

quote:
Originally posted by stefanoc
4. the mixing style is what will make the set stand out from others. use the eq wisely.


NOTE: Killing the bass for 1 bar and then bringing it all back in full force is not "mixing style". That's shit I do in my car to the radio.

quote:
Originally posted by stefanoc
5. i dont know if you have started mixing yet, but i personally dont suggest this kind of mix. i mean a set for one style of music is annoying/boring.


No argument there. I'm just joshin' though. You know that.

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RapidFire
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Feb 2005
Location: toronto

quote:
Originally posted by stefanoc
1. an 80 minute mix should be approximately 12-16 songs depending on track lengths.

2. play whatever you enjoy. dont ask what people like and dont. your mix isnt a request show. plus, you will nbever play what everyone wants because everyone likes something else. so posting the tracklist here and asking if it should be in the set isnt the right question, because theres always someone who will dislike a track or a few in the set. you cant do anything about it.

3. what you should be worried about is positioning the tracks in the set. so if u want to build up the music from slow, you start with the slow songs in the genre first. you know what i mean.

4. the mixing style is what will make the set stand out from others. use the eq wisely.

5. i dont know if you have started mixing yet, but i personally dont suggest this kind of mix. i mean a set for one style of music is annoying/boring. no mean to offend u because ive done this as well. i have experienced that when im only trying to mix a set of only a certain genre, i get bored and get a little clueless as where im taking the set. minor changes in the style is way better i figured. not only it will be harsher on you to mix only a certain style, but if u listen to it afterwards it will sound a bit boring. if you mix 2 styles, set seems to be more adventurous.


agreed. if I may add to that;

6) don't just play the tracks every other DJ is playing out to death. try and find your own style through your trackselection and more obscure stuff as it establishes your DJ identity and sets you apart from the others

unless its just a mix for kicks and youre not really serious about it.

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Ishkur
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

Incidentally, on my forum are DJs posting their mixes and tracklistings too. Here's the latest setlist that one DJ kdh posted.


01: Be there for you D-Kay & Raw Full Concord Dawn Remix Freak Recordings
02: Inside My Soul Logistics Friction+Nu Balance Remix Hospital Records
03: Roc Ya Body "Mic Check 1,2" MVP Dj Zink Mix Positiva Red
04: Tarantula Pendulum & Fresh Orig BreakBeat Koas
05: X-Ray Subfocus Orig White
06: Messiah Konflict Spor Remix Renegade Hardware
07: Enemies Dynamic Source K-Step Mix Sudden Def
08: Mars Attacks K-Step Orig Sudden Def
09: Belch Purple Unit VS Temper D & K Fire Orig Cell
10: Mo Fire Raw Hill Cru Andy C VS Fresh BCRecordings
11: Unknown Ill Skills VS Concord Dawn Orig White
12: Submarines Fresh Pendulum Remix BreakBeat Koas
13: Pack Of Wolfs Nightbreed Pendulum Remix Ram Records
14: Mercy Muffler Orig Revolution Records
15: Unknown CounterStrike Orig White
16: Morning Light Concord Dawn Orig Timeless
17: Lose Myself Lucifer Orig Cymbalism
18: Scorned Rawthang Feat Kari Rueslatten Orig BSE Recordings
19: Over Cut and Run DnB Mix Cut and Run
20: Cherish ILS Feat Valkyrie Vicious Circle Mix Distinctive
21: Let Me Down Shannon Swain Ben Sage Remix Disturbed
22: Epilogue Rawthang Feat Kari Rueslatten Org BSE Recordings
23: Remember Me SunChase Ill Skillz Remix Hostile
24: Dub Beats CTRL Ed Solo Remix DSF
25: Attack of the WolfMan Rob Sparx Orig Zombie Recordings
26: Consciousness Xample & Sol Orig Penny Black
27: Devil's Chimmney Exile Orig Evol Intent Records
28: Forbidden Fruit Rascal & Kane Orig Noizworks
29: Aeons Counterstike Feat DropBass Orig Revolution Records
30: Corrupt Cops Pish Posh Evol Intent Remix BarCode Records
31: Rinsin Rawthang Orig HabitRecordings
32: Wise Decision GhostFace Orig White
33: Unknown Muffler Orig White
34: Boom Blast Free Stylers John B Remix Against the Grain
35: Papua Nu Guinea High Contrast + Future sound of Londun Remix White

Now that, my friends, is a fucking DJ.

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RapidFire
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Feb 2005
Location: toronto

so by your logic armin van buuren is an amazing dj because his ASOT year mix is 40 something tracks?? its ridiculous. you bearly get to hear 1/10th of the song and it defeats the purpose of the tracks when EVERY track is a bridge track. having a record ammount of tracks isnt what makes you a good dj...

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Ishkur
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

No, it makes you a DJ. Period.

Playing 11 records back to back makes you a jukebox.

You people need to separate your devotion to the music you love from the DJs you love playing it. They are two separate things, and your problem is you can't tell the difference. If you're just there for the music, then you really don't need the DJ, and he doesn't deserve a god damn ounce of respect or admiration. Download the tracks and cue them up in winamp with a cross-fader plug-in if that's what you want.

But, on the other hand, if you are really there for the DJ, then his proficiency, skill and creativity are to be valued, encouraged, and expected.......not the music. Any ****** can play music. We aren't impressed by that shit. If you want people to worship your mix, do something special with it. Armin's 40-track megamix is a welcome, refreshing pace to the hordes of same-sounding, boring trance DJs who think all they have to do is show up, play records and fake the rest and be revered for it.

Fuck that shit. Get some skill or get the fuck off the tables. Because if you don't, your job will be replaced by robots within ten years.

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aria_clubber
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Mtl

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
No, it makes you a DJ. Period.

Playing 11 records back to back makes you a jukebox.

You people need to separate your devotion to the music you love from the DJs you love playing it. They are two separate things, and your problem is you can't tell the difference. If you're just there for the music, then you really don't need the DJ, and he doesn't deserve a god damn ounce of respect or admiration. Download the tracks and cue them up in winamp with a cross-fader plug-in if that's what you want.

But, on the other hand, if you are really there for the DJ, then his proficiency, skill and creativity are to be valued, encouraged, and expected.......not the music. Any ****** can play music. We aren't impressed by that shit. If you want people to worship your mix, do something special with it. Armin's 40-track megamix is a welcome, refreshing pace to the hordes of same-sounding, boring trance DJs who think all they have to do is show up, play records and fake the rest and be revered for it.

Fuck that shit. Get some skill or get the fuck off the tables. Because if you don't, your job will be replaced by robots within ten years.

+1

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knoxy5000
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Darlington England

Personally i fucking hate megamixes, mixing for like 1 bar doesnt take half as much skill as keeping a mix in time for 2+ minutes, And half the time it sounds like they are just whacked in and 50% of the time you can hear the tunes clashing like mad.
I much prefer long sweeping mixes anyday


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DJ Sarah H
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: London UK Baby

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Incidentally, on my forum are DJs posting their mixes and tracklistings too. Here's the latest setlist that one DJ kdh posted.


01: Be there for you D-Kay & Raw Full Concord Dawn Remix Freak Recordings
02: Inside My Soul Logistics Friction+Nu Balance Remix Hospital Records
03: Roc Ya Body "Mic Check 1,2" MVP Dj Zink Mix Positiva Red
04: Tarantula Pendulum & Fresh Orig BreakBeat Koas
05: X-Ray Subfocus Orig White
06: Messiah Konflict Spor Remix Renegade Hardware
07: Enemies Dynamic Source K-Step Mix Sudden Def
08: Mars Attacks K-Step Orig Sudden Def
09: Belch Purple Unit VS Temper D & K Fire Orig Cell
10: Mo Fire Raw Hill Cru Andy C VS Fresh BCRecordings
11: Unknown Ill Skills VS Concord Dawn Orig White
12: Submarines Fresh Pendulum Remix BreakBeat Koas
13: Pack Of Wolfs Nightbreed Pendulum Remix Ram Records
14: Mercy Muffler Orig Revolution Records
15: Unknown CounterStrike Orig White
16: Morning Light Concord Dawn Orig Timeless
17: Lose Myself Lucifer Orig Cymbalism
18: Scorned Rawthang Feat Kari Rueslatten Orig BSE Recordings
19: Over Cut and Run DnB Mix Cut and Run
20: Cherish ILS Feat Valkyrie Vicious Circle Mix Distinctive
21: Let Me Down Shannon Swain Ben Sage Remix Disturbed
22: Epilogue Rawthang Feat Kari Rueslatten Org BSE Recordings
23: Remember Me SunChase Ill Skillz Remix Hostile
24: Dub Beats CTRL Ed Solo Remix DSF
25: Attack of the WolfMan Rob Sparx Orig Zombie Recordings
26: Consciousness Xample & Sol Orig Penny Black
27: Devil's Chimmney Exile Orig Evol Intent Records
28: Forbidden Fruit Rascal & Kane Orig Noizworks
29: Aeons Counterstike Feat DropBass Orig Revolution Records
30: Corrupt Cops Pish Posh Evol Intent Remix BarCode Records
31: Rinsin Rawthang Orig HabitRecordings
32: Wise Decision GhostFace Orig White
33: Unknown Muffler Orig White
34: Boom Blast Free Stylers John B Remix Against the Grain
35: Papua Nu Guinea High Contrast + Future sound of Londun Remix White

Now that, my friends, is a fucking DJ.


can you put up a link to that set?

Some mint tunes in that set, i do love concord dawn and ils.


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