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thoughtlessjex
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, North Carolina

This track is pretty good, I'd say. I think you're thinking too much from a fear of being bad, than anything else. Too often, I see the mentality that "if my track isn't decent, it can't go on the Promotion Forum." This viewpoint is fundamentally flawed; the promotion forum serves two purposes, as far as I can tell: promotion for burgeoning professional producers, and education for amateur producers. Essentially, it is a resource on things one has to learn to make technically good productions. Further, it allows others to review the composition and aesthetic qualities of the submitted music. So one can even learn the musicality and aesthetics of trance or whatever.

I started out with crap productions, but within two years on the Promotion Forum, I've learned a great deal technically, and even have begun to develop a unique style. Don't be afraid that a poor production will not be accepted on the forums.

I'd also say that it's good to try to "finish" a song at least once, even if it isn't a particularly good one. It's a good experience to have, because you'll know what if feels like to "finish" a track, and will be able to make that judgement more accurately later in your career.

Also be mindful that you'll never truly finish a track. You'll just make presentable tracks. You can always go back and review your concepts later, and thinking of a track as finished can get in the way of that action.


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djsphere
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: bucharest

thanks for the tips everyone


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MaxC
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago, IL

It takes me about a year before I come around to actually completing a song. But I feel I learn a lot from working on the bastardized attempts at music that I make during the rest of that time. As long as you can come away from a session with the feeling that you know something useful that you didn't know before, even if it's just newfound appreciation for a piece of kit, then it should be worth it in the long run.

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Speactra
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Uppsala , Sweden

Hey. The track sounds great!

I also have that problem. I start making a track, and then I hang up on the mixing or something. I don't have the inspiration to finnish it.

When I began making music, 4 years ago, I always finnished my tracks. Now I need to make everything sound so perfect. I wish I could make it as simple as when I began making music.

The only tips I have is to wait untill you've got much inspiration, and start producing when you know that you have many hours free.


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Axolotyl
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Registered: Feb 2005
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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex

Also be mindful that you'll never truly finish a track. You'll just make presentable tracks. You can always go back and review your concepts later, and thinking of a track as finished can get in the way of that action.


Very much agree with this statement. Tracks are abandoned, not finished. Especially in the early stages of being a producer. Even pro's come back to tracks and do a '2005 edit' for example. When I accepted that as a fact, I found that my creativity and speed of production increased quite a bit. I dont agonise over details now and let the tracks take their own shape. Personally I think good tracks will flow out of you when the time comes.

Also bear in mind that its possible to overproduce a track if you dont know what your doing. I go back and listen to some of the earlier edits of my tracks and some of them completely kick arse over the final versions.


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lott
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Montreal

been producing for a good 5 years, same problem... all incomplete tracks... till last month i decided to take it to the next level...
my new rule is to work on 8 bars always looping... for any edm style... i keep building... next step i take a beatmap a popular track... in a program like sony acid... and follow the actual structure of the track... insert markers... and the fun begins there... i find this helps big time...
here's my latest track... it started with a simple 8 bar loop...

dutch_and_conway_redemption.mp3

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djsphere
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: bucharest

i did some changes with the sound

sample here


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RIPassion
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It's not bad. Your bassline patch sounds a little too light and floaty to me. How about making it sound more mono and layering a different sub part to it or something? The kick sounds pretty punchy, but I think you can put some more effects on it and really fit it in between the track. For example, I can tell which kick you're using... I know I have it somewhere in my sample bank. It sounds too much like you just threw a kick sample on there instead of taking the time to mesh it with the track.

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Thois
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by djsphere
i did some changes with the sound

sample here

unbeatable, this is good stuff

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djsphere
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: bucharest

quote:
Originally posted by RIPassion
It's not bad. Your bassline patch sounds a little too light and floaty to me. How about making it sound more mono and layering a different sub part to it or something? The kick sounds pretty punchy, but I think you can put some more effects on it and really fit it in between the track. For example, I can tell which kick you're using... I know I have it somewhere in my sample bank. It sounds too much like you just threw a kick sample on there instead of taking the time to mesh it with the track.


good suggestions, thanks mate


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djsphere
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Registered: Apr 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Thois
unbeatable, this is good stuff


thanks! glad you like it


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mzvirbulis
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Ballarat, Victoria

SMITH&PLEDGER
And finally, any advise to aspiring producers?

Smith:
Don't be impatient and take your time learning all of the elements of the studio, software etc. It can take years and years to reach a professional standard and there's always something new to learn. Also, don't forget that a little music theory is useful so that you can work out chords harmonies etc. Above all, try and make music that moves you and says something new.

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