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Zombie0915




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I find the computer entertaining to tell you the truth, computers are quite fascinating I think. I just wish I could see the screen sometimes, or even some gimmicky rendition of whatever the person is doing on the thing. That whole visual is lost so you cant just look at it and know how he does it, I think that bothers alot of people. I sure would like to see what goes on on that screen the way anyone can see a dj work a mixer or a turntable, unfortunately the only way to figure out what goes on behind that screen is to read about it. Maybe that barrier is what makes kids not enjoy it as much, I dont think it would be too big of a deal to let fans see the screen to get beyond that though, that would be neat if working a computer one day became glamorous, and all us pale faced geeks became stylish.

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PoisonJam19
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Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Chicago

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Originally posted by Zombie0915
I find the computer entertaining to tell you the truth, computers are quite fascinating I think. I just wish I could see the screen sometimes, or even some gimmicky rendition of whatever the person is doing on the thing. That whole visual is lost so you cant just look at it and know how he does it, I think that bothers alot of people. I sure would like to see what goes on on that screen the way anyone can see a dj work a mixer or a turntable, unfortunately the only way to figure out what goes on behind that screen is to read about it. Maybe that barrier is what makes kids not enjoy it as much, I dont think it would be too big of a deal to let fans see the screen to get beyond that though, that would be neat if working a computer one day became glamorous, and all us pale faced geeks became stylish.


It would be pretty interesting to watch a Albeton piece put together live, but from the point of view of someone on the dancefloor it's just not as interesting as watching a turntable DJ. But, as Demoted and Clovis86 said, the positive side is Albeton mixing is always flawless, and that is what a DJ gig is all about.

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queen_vee
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Originally posted by PoisonJam19
Albeton is kind of lame in my opinion. It's very good for studio use, but watching some using it live is not interesting at all. It's kind of like, "I hope you're all having fun watching me stare at my computer screen." For all we know he could just be doing his taxes on there or something...


Yes, yes, Yes.

It's stoopid. You can't wave your arms in the air and tease us with the breakdown with this Ableton thing- it's just not in the spirit of the dance floor!

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PoisonJam19
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Yes, yes, Yes.

It's stoopid. You can't wave your arms in the air and tease us with the breakdown with this Ableton thing- it's just not in the spirit of the dance floor!


I guess they could tease us durring the breakdown, but with Albeton it's more like watching a guy put his arms in the air and cheer after he's leveled up in World of Warcraft. JK

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mzvirbulis
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Ballarat, Victoria

i was reading what richie hawtin said that with people embracing technology really the problem lies that the technology is to far in advanced for people to use it.

quote: "while he revels in technology, richie doesnt want djs to abandon the art of entertainment. ask hawtin about djs shoptalk and he reveals that the topic at present relates to just how far they can push the technology, yet he, of all people, has reservations about their progress'.

" the software technology is more powerful than we need right now, and than we can even use as humans, and the problem lies in that we need new ways to interface ourselves with computers and techology, to enable us to really use all these functions and make it not only interesting and inspiring for us, but also for the audience members,"

"people may have thought that i would have been the first to use ableton out on the road, but i havent been - it's sasha and it's pvd. as much as i like forward thinking electronics and technology, i have to admit i think they're too fast, which is a little ironic for me to say, because i feel that when you take on a new technology it has to add to your craft and add to certain elements of it and allow you to go further. although those guys are able to play records in a new way now, i find the entertainment value of thier shows is compltely lacking. this opens up the area of what we need. we need a way for dj's to be able to use this technology, to use computers, and not look like they're up there checking e-mail.

etc... too much to type maybe i will scan it or somrthing?

forte mag

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wackadoo
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: LA

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Originally posted by mzvirbulis
i was reading what richie hawtin said that with people embracing technology really the problem lies that the technology is to far in advanced for people to use it.

quote: "while he revels in technology, richie doesnt want djs to abandon the art of entertainment. ask hawtin about djs shoptalk and he reveals that the topic at present relates to just how far they can push the technology, yet he, of all people, has reservations about their progress'.

" the software technology is more powerful than we need right now, and than we can even use as humans, and the problem lies in that we need new ways to interface ourselves with computers and techology, to enable us to really use all these functions and make it not only interesting and inspiring for us, but also for the audience members,"

"people may have thought that i would have been the first to use ableton out on the road, but i havent been - it's sasha and it's pvd. as much as i like forward thinking electronics and technology, i have to admit i think they're too fast, which is a little ironic for me to say, because i feel that when you take on a new technology it has to add to your craft and add to certain elements of it and allow you to go further. although those guys are able to play records in a new way now, i find the entertainment value of thier shows is compltely lacking. this opens up the area of what we need. we need a way for dj's to be able to use this technology, to use computers, and not look like they're up there checking e-mail.

etc... too much to type maybe i will scan it or somrthing?

forte mag


Thanks for the article. Love reading anything he has to say. If you can scan the article it would be appreciated.

Thanks for the replies about PvD.

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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by PoisonJam19
It would be pretty interesting to watch a Albeton piece put together live, but from the point of view of someone on the dancefloor it's just not as interesting as watching a turntable DJ. But, as Demoted and Clovis86 said, the positive side is Albeton mixing is always flawless, and that is what a DJ gig is all about.



Well, I had alot of fun watching Sasha peice together an Ableton set when I saw him in Las Vegas in October.

Knowing how it works is a plus...


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medinaM5
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by Clovis86
Knowing how it works is a plus...


+1, if you know how the whole program works, its very interesting to watch and u can appreciate what the dj is doing

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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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+1, if you know how the whole program works, its very interesting to watch and u can appreciate what the dj is doing


Dude, at xmas, you had the best avatar in teh world.


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medinaM5
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Registered: Jan 2005
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lol..applet0n hand with 5 hats, i want it to be xmas again...thats a sick sig clovis

edit - are u gettin these off EDMM?

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Clovis
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lol..applet0n hand with 5 hats, i want it to be xmas again...thats a sick sig clovis

edit - are u gettin these off EDMM?



yep...thanks to malek!


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medinaM5
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damn, those are some sick shots

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