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Originally posted by jonny_mac_99 You dont need to start a club...you just start your own night.

maybe, but i still think owning a club would be cooler.. promoters are the sleaze of the earth didnt you know? hahahaha i keed i keed..

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If you had a good enough idea for a club, maybe a bank or some rich dude would fund you.

You can't just open an EDM club next to Space and expect to make it.

i have been looking into it and there is really 2 different ways you can go about it. You can either own the building and hence own the club and rent it to promoters, you can just be a promoter and rent a space from a club owner, or you can own your own building and then do all your own promotions.

either the first or second are fairly realistic unless you have a lot of capital and a lot of time to burn.

3 to 4 million for a large club would be realistic. You going to be spending about 1 million on equipment the rest will be for decor and building the club and having money to book good talent and run some promotions to get some buzz goign about your club. Thats the thing about it. If you can generate good buzz an pr for your club then your gold. the hard thing is creating a club that peoople love to come to.

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i'd throw some parties first to get known to people...get your own sound & lighting systems...find some cool places to throw them...and then...when everybody knows u...sell your house, car, systems, and your soul to start a new club...so when people see you are the owner they will be hooked to get in...

Depends on what you really wanan do. If you want an actually respected venue is one thing. If you wanna milk a place for all it's worth is a different. Being from brooklyn we have lounges springing up all over the place with DJs and all, that get shot down after only a few months cause they don't ID and sever alchohol to ANYONE untill they are puking drunk (illegal for bartenders to give alchy after a while if you're visibily drunk).

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Just buy like, a derelict building out in the section of town that not many people hang around in at night. Get some illegal aliens to renovate the place. Run it as some sort of workshop by day and throw some stealth parties in it on an irregular schedule. Get a huge list of phone contacts and alert everyone by mobile right before the party goes off, or do it the other way around with a voice mail or something ppl can call to figure out whats going on. It would be less corrupt than the club business.

If you were on some sort of coast, you could buy a large boat, gather passengers, get away from anywhere where ppl can enforce, and do whatever the hell you want out at sea, if you already had some sort of nautical skills you might could find a way to do that for less money than a club.

Or you could start some sort of activist group which uses dancing as a form of protest, and then throw parites in broad daylight with angry people carrying signs and party kids dancing along, losta places cant stop protests as easily as they can parties.

Or you could start your own religion, and throw parties in a "church" on sunday mornings, if you are really thourough and make it appear like a serious religion you could get away with all sortsa crazy stuff, without all the drama of licenses and whatnot.

Or start with just a bar, run it for years and years until your neighors go out of business, expand into their place with a dancefloor. Starting a regular bar is probably really cheap, you could still bring in music but without a real dancefloor. Maybe start a restaraunt and at night put all the tables away and bring people in to dance.

I'm sure you could start some sort of party venue yourself if you tried something creative and had some capital. Personaly I think an old drive-in movie theater would be a good place to morph into a party venue.

Last edited by Zombie0915 on Jan-11-2006 at 02:12

Really, i think the biggest problem or the biggest concern you would have would be publicity. granted it's expensive to get a building [or worse yet build one from scratch], but you won't break even anywhere +near+ even or gain profit if you don't advertise, don't book big names, or just get the word out about your place to all the people who already have "Their" club that they like going to. what would you do to change those minds? how would you make it better than something they already like. really, all these extra factors i think would be more of a hassle than actually getting a place.

i mean...i could get like 10 rich guys together maybe plan everything out from there.....it might take a couple of years but maybe we could get them to send people out (most likely illegal aliens) for like $3.00 a pop all day to look for people...these aliens would have to look sharp and stuff but they could look for all the hookups for everything i would need...then i could send other people out to look for really good DJ's or people who know really good DJ's so i could book them at my club....then i could build my own club the way i wanted for a small price...have the dj's i wanted and get all of this for free basically because im friends with the rich guys...id be the brains behind everything and they would be paying for it all!....or Maybe we could get enough TA's to get together.....they could start there own club and maybe djs would play for free....but i mean im only thinking of only a little bit of what goes into the club, im not thinking of the 1000's of other things that would need to go into making the club....but i mean if we could just come up with a serious layout of how things would be...what big categories i would need to research...what licences etc, im betting we could at least know what to do if we ever ended up with the money and wanted to do something......and whats all this talk about the mafia...although i wouldnt doubt it....the mafia is in all kinds of things like that....

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Originally posted by Liquid Fusion

If they're putting large sums of money in, they'll want a big say in how its run, set up, and why the hell you of all people (with no business background and no previous experience in nightclub management) is running it. Not to mention, they'll be wanting a return for their money, so if you are not pulling profits pretty quickly to give them reutrns you'll be out quicker than an English batsman.

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you gotta get the dumb people...become friends with dumb, rich kids and get them to steal money from there parents....i mean...and i know it sounds f-ed...but if charles manson could get all those people to kill for them, i mean you can find dumb rich people who love muzik and would always dream of being able to be "part" of a club to get money for you to build one..i mean its not likely but if you search hard and long i bet theres at least 10 out of the 6 billion people we have on earth right?

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Happiness is an occasional episode in the general drama of pain.- Thomas Hardy

"Have nothing in your home unless you know it to be useful or believe it to be beautiful." - John Ruskin (He was talking about records!)

quote:

Daniel Boorstin: The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the illusion of knowledge