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Originally posted by Jayx1 we arent allowed to have booze on the street or in public places.

i'm pretty sure denmark is the same on that; most westernized countries are. It's so the streets aren't filled with drunks and littered with empty cans and bottles.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 forget niagara and toronto if you are 18. Go to montreal.

I don't think he has much of a choice here people..... from what I gather this is a planned trip for a class he's taking. My guess is he does not get to set the agenda.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

Sometimes certain production companies(ie Destiny) will through all ages events at pretty big clubs(the docks).
The events haven't really been planned yet for that far from now, but its possible that there could be something along those lines you could go to.

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Originally posted by Tulliz I'm coming over from the 21 through 28th of March.

Hey, you'll be around for my birthday

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH i'm pretty sure denmark is the same on that; most westernized countries are. It's so the streets aren't filled with drunks and littered with empty cans and bottles.

wrong... most westernized countries allow people to consume alcohol much more freely than ours does and dont have last calls or open container laws. Even quebec is more liberal than most of north america.

In fact just google "alcohol laws" and the first hit that comes up is the ontario alcohol and gaming board website. Thats not merely coincidence.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Article in a UK newspaper about the deregulation of drinking hours there:

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Our society's extended hangover Clive Coleman Longer drinking hours have not brought mayhem, but we should fear the toll on health PUT THE PAPER down immediately: this is a public safety announcement. Go straight, I repeat, straight, to the window and tell me if your street is awash with blood, vomit and a slew of discarded micro skirts? Are drunken “kebab carrying” thugs stampeding your children and scaring your pets? No? Well, I hope that you feel let down, cheated even. The media’s apocalyptic vision of what we were to expect after the extension of drinking hours under the Licensing Act 2003 was enough to spark mass emigration to some teetotal Newfoundland. Those who stayed could cling only to the hope that our country would undergo a magical transformation into a Narnia-like world where people were always drinking, but never drunk. Police numbers were going to have to be increased to 20 million and CCTV placed in every front porch in the land if we were to survive as a nation. OK, I’m exaggerating, but not by much. Politicians, judges and journalists queued up to tell us what a catastrophe awaited on November 24 when the Act came into effect. In August, the Council of Circuit Judges expressed “no doubt that an escalation of offences of rape, grievous bodily harm and worse, will inevitably be caused by the relaxation of liquor licensing”. Even the Association of Chief Police Officers, initially supportive of the new law, seemed to change tack. It gave warning that “there is a strong link between the increase in disorder and the explosion of late-night premises”. The message was clear. Be afraid. Be very afraid. And what happened? Well, the first night passed without any major incident, except that there were so many television crews out in search of the anticipated violence that you had more chance of being mugged by a gang of disgruntled Oxbridge producers than the drinking hordes. Ah, but there was an explanation. We were told it was a cold night. That was it. The binge-drinkers were keeping their throats warm inside and practising saying: “Are you calling my pint a poof?” Since then it’s been pretty much all quiet on the drink apocalypse front. Most police forces have reported little increase in violence and antisocial behaviour. Admittedly the Government launched a crackdown on drunken loutishness just before the change in the law; £2.5 million (not a vast amount by any standards) was pledged to boost a range of specialist operations including issuing fixed penalty notices for alcohol-related disorder, early intervention using CCTV to diffuse potential disorder, and multi-agency enforcement action against problem premises and retailers. But none of this was seen by the doom-mongers as more than a finger in the bursting dyke of drunken mayhem. Surely then Christmas was to be the really big test? We’d just been warming up — the last month was an alcopop chaser to the 25-pint holiday binge. Nope, we managed to behave ourselves about as well as normal. Don’t get me wrong. As a barrister I’m all too aware of the corrosive effect of alcohol and its link to crime. It is a cause of huge national concern that there are close to four million people in Britain dependent on alcohol, and that the number of alcohol-related deaths among 15 to 44-year-olds has tripled in the past 20 years. In 2003 the UK was ranked seventh in the European league table of alcohol consumption — and no boys, that doesn’t mean a few more down the Kosher Horses and we can get ourselves into contention for a top three finish. What it does mean is that there may be more reason to the Licensing Act than was thought. Binge-drinking involves frenetic consumption of large amounts of alcohol in a short space of time. That is precisely what people do when faced with a blanket chucking out time. Violence occurs when lots of drunk people spill on to the streets and mass around minicab ranks and kebab stands. The debate on whether the new law would alleviate the problem of binge drinking was always finely balanced, never one-sided. The truth is that we didn’t know, and although the early signs are cautiously encouraging, we still don’t. As yet, the Home Office has no data on the levels of criminality since the change. It is probable that there will be an increase in low-level crime, but that is likely to be a result of the police enforcing their greater powers under the new Act and the Government crackdown on drunken loutishness. But have those who predicted mayhem done a disservice to the serious discussion on curbing the consumption of alcohol? Worryingly, a BBC survey found that 29 per cent of young drinkers said that they would drink more once the law was changed. Of even more concern, 45 per cent of 16 to 17-year-olds anticipated increasing their consumption, and 41 per cent of those who drink more than 20 units on an average Friday or Saturday expected to drink more. As a nation, our alcohol consumption has been rising steadily in recent years, while it has been falling in most of Europe’s wine producing countries. France traditionally had one of the highest levels of alcohol consumption and alcoholism in the world. We now drink more than they do. It is time to face up to the complex issues of licensing, consumption, health and antisocial behaviour. While the new law may not exacerbate crime and might even alleviate it, the consequences for the nation’s health caused by increased consumption could be far more serious. The law and order glass may not be half full, but the health glass looks decidedly half empty.

24 hour drinking would not be the end of the world if enacted here. It would acutally help make things better in many ways.

As for the health arguement. The choice of an adult to ingest alcohol is an adult's choice, not the state's. So that adult must live with the consequences. Add to that that there is nothing here that proves that alcohol comsuption has risen due to 24 hour drinking. On the contrary it states that it has reduced "binge drinking"

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Originally posted by Tulliz Heya fellow tranceaddicts. I'm an 18 year old kid, who's studying business in the wonderful city of Copenhagen, Denmark. This year in Marc, we are flying out to Canada to see the Niagara Falls and what other turist attractions the city has to offer.

I'm a travel counsellor @ Ontario Travel
pm me your mailing address and I will send you travel guides and road maps of Ontario!

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Originally posted by iLLnaDa I want to go there so bad to see the little Mermaid!!!

beautiful city.
last time i saw Mermaid (January, 1998) she looked very sketchy w/o her head on. lol

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Yikes, where to start.

First of all thank you for all of your suggestions.

You're right (whoever wrote it) that i am not the one setting the agenda. It's a classtrip, and therefor i can't reroute the trip to Montreal or anywhere else for that matter hehe.

The little mermaid? I might be able to snatch a picture at some point! (do girls like mermaids in toronto??).

About the drinking rules here. It _IS_ legal to drink in the street, and you can buy alcohol 24 hours a day. Only on gas-stations and 7-Eleven's at night, but that still works. Drunks in the streets aren't that big of an issue here, and there is certainly no need for curfues yet.

I've been to NYC, and i'm going to San Fransisco as well this summer, so can you tell me - is Toronto anything like NYC? I liked NYC alot, for no particular reason. I just liked to sit in the middle of central park, listening to my mp3 and putting things into perspective hehe.

Thanks again for your kindness, and sorry if you asked me something and I didn't reply..

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Originally posted by niveole beautiful city. last time i saw Mermaid (January, 1998) she looked very sketchy w/o her head on. lol

Yeah hehe, that's pretty sad. But she has haid it replaced a few times now so. Copenhagen is a beautiful city, when it wants to be