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Yohan
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Personally I'm starting to lean towards full withdrawal of US and Coalition troops from Iraq not because it is the right thing to do, but because it may be the best thing to do, at least from US perspective.

Well, more because i don't think US is willing to pay the price to see the fruition of Iraq becoming a stable democracy or whatever. The price being blood of sons and daughters of Americans.

If/when US troops leave, the insurgents will start fighting each other, esp. Shia and Sunni militants and AQ backed insurgents. Already there are signs of that fracture. UN will probably not want to get involved with peacekeeping force, not after the attempt in Palestine in mid 90s.

Whether we like it or not, religious fanaticism has proven to be the superior morale booster in this case. Simply because it is harder to fight against people who believe that fighting and dying against the infidels will get them to Paradise to fuck some virgins, compounded by problem of not killing innocent people. (which the insurgents want hurt, to turn more people against the infidels) Plus whenever US forces kill an innocent person, helluva a lot of negative press comes out. (I wonder how many of those critics actually be in a situation where you can't tell whether someone is trying to kill you or give you a cookie, because rarely you can differentiate between the two)

What I'm saying is that the price has gone up high, and US may not wish to, or simply can't, pay the price anymore.


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That's how retarded it sounds when you take these names literally.

Twat.


Awwww, get over it. Nothing wrong with a little fun here and there.

I too, thought the Democratic response was pretty fucking weak (though the SOTU was pretty uninspiring too). Tim Kaine is a douche with bad hair.

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Lepanto
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In all seriousness I agree with you. I believe that if Iraq is gonna sort its self out it needs to be done by themselves. Iraq could become a succesful economical country like Kuwait/Dubai is due to oil but I dont think it can ever return to normality if there is a dominant prescense(sp) there of troops ordered to "stabalize" and implay democracy


What "normality" are you talking about? LMAO.


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A civil war in that country is unavoidable

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OurManFlint
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I don't think the US really thought about impacts of a quick and forced change of government. I mean look at the history of East Europe in the 1800's. That will tell you everything you need to know about nationalist conservatism and the clash with liberalism.

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