Polllleeeaasssse...

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"Besides, there is a very strong link between drug usage and EDM which most other genres of music lack or where drug users are only a very small percentage of listeners of that music (pop/rock, etc.)."

Are you serious?

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well yea I know its kinda 'duh', but ts a duh reply to a stupid letter by somebody who seems to react as 'oh my god...drugs are mentioned in some trance tracks'

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Originally posted by DJ Indus Creed "Besides, there is a very strong link between drug usage and EDM which most other genres of music lack or where drug users are only a very small percentage of listeners of that music (pop/rock, etc.)." Are you serious?

Not that I want it, but when songs with violence, sex and slangs get Parental Advisory why not tracks with drugs get Parental Advisory. My guess would be drugs are not something you see/cope up with on day to day life; maybe thats why even authorities dont care enough. Or maybe Trance is not that big enough to attract cencorships and ratings.

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Nops don't think its that, there isn't that much direct reference to drugs either, more like incinuations in many tracks, the messages are very often more subtle.

Drugs aren't swear words and just naming the names of certain drugs in tracks without anything else being said about them in the lyrics isn't enough for a PA, and it jolly well should not be either.

i agree

ban it

lets rap about n1gg3rs and guns and "why do you beat the shit out of me? we could be so good together" instead

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Instead of the attention to war against drugs, how about a little attention to drugs which would prevent war.

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poor kids, I really feel sorry for the children who grow up completely sheltered from drugs, profanity, sex and everything offensive until they become adults. It must be such a shock for them when they finally venture out into the world as free men/women to suddenly discover all that was hidden from them. I was quite an overprotected child and I had a really hard time starting off college because I was so out of synch with the world around me.

I feel lucky that I was able to get on the Internet when I was young and read about these things, things nobody could tell me and things I couldn't learn about in conventional media. Now that window to the outside world is being closed, the internet is no longer that lawless frontier that I grew to love.

Especially if a child has parents who can control who the child meets, not being able to hang around those friends and have those important experiences, I mean what happens when you live 18 years before you ever learn about drugs or hear swear words, I think that strong sheltering can do quite a bit of harm to a person, the shock must give them such a bleak view of the world upon entering it independently for the first time, I bet some people can't handle it and go crazy. The more powerful these protections become the worse it gets for the children.

I think that banning the word exstacy from songs that children can hear is on the overprotective side of the line. Drugs are reality, sex is reality, profanity is reality, just because it is grotesque and hard for children to understand doesn't make it OK to force them to not understand it until they grow up, the kids who are sheltered from this stuff are at a disadvantage compared to the kids who learn how to cope with those things.

I made a post in that thread. My stance then is the same as now. I said:

This is dance music culture. It is a culture of hedonism. It is a culture of Bachanalian tendancies. It is a culture of reckless abandonmnent, of personal debauchery, of maximizing Temporary Autonomous Zones by whatever means necessary. A culture where the adventurous spirit is not a means to furthering some stupid cause or worldview, but a selfish, risque end in itself.

It is not PG-13.

We here are not in the feel-good role of coddling people's sensitivities by showing them how safe and fun and happy and risk-free we are. This is not a daycare centre. This is not a highschool gymnasium. This is not a bar or club. This is not a dance ball or a charity auction or a concert or a block party or a neighbourhood barbecue or a campaign rally or a protest.

We are here to have fun. In whatever fucking way we choose. That includes drugs. That includes music. That includes dancing. That includes sex and nudity. That includes performance art and poetic terrorism and whatever else our fucked up minds can think of. We let nothing be true, and everything be permissable. If it is different, we embrace it. If it is avant-garde, we welcome it. If it is safe and boring, we ignore it. If it acts like you--getting in the way of everyone elses fun time--we will ostracize it.

This is a Pirate Utopia, existing for so long as is needed, with conscious negligence of the evils of social conformity. Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law. In perhaps a purer sense: a celebration of victimless crimes.

So, with that said, please fuck off, and take your precious, sheltered little children with you. Perhaps when you BOTH grow up you may be admitted back in. But only if you are mature enough to handle it, which, at the moment, you surely aren't.

Indeed..the fact that they would put parental guidance on it makes it even the moreso exciting for these teens as its something 'illegal' or it needs 'wow parental guidance this stuff is only for adults'. They find this "cool", as with parentally guide albums full of swearing it has the opposite effect I think..they will just swear more.

w00t

parental advisory...

what about the kids who's parents go clubbing



what about the clubbers who now have kids

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Instead of the attention to war against drugs, how about a little attention to drugs which would prevent war.

~Vorsprung Dyk Technique~

First, the original letter from the mom to the Radio station. There is nothing wrong about her letter. It seems like genuine concerns of a good mom. If over-protection is bad, so is over-exposure. Kids will eventually find out all the shit that is there to find out anyways - they don't have to lured into them through advertisement of radios and televisions.

If the Radio-station is gonna gonna play songs with "Yo MothaFucka, Yo Nigga, Yo Bitch - Come suck my dick", it is fine. They just have to proclaim themselves as an adult radio-station. The kids will still hear it - the same way as we have all done about so many things we weren't supposed to - but will know quite well that there is something inherently wrong about it.

Kids eventually get exposed to everything that their parents don't want to. But they also have a fair idea that there is something wrong about what they are being exposed to, especially since parents didn't want that to happen. I think that's how it should stay.

That's how we grow with a perception, and fear, of good and bad and right and wrong regardless of what path we choose as we grow up.

I don't see why there should be an attempt to pass as normal what is not normal.

Less than 1% of total trance tracks talk about drugs or name them. And i don't see any reason as to why such tracks have to played on any household radio station or any station that doesn't operate with specific precautionary tag to it.

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