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Mr.Mystery
Static Guru



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by The_G0dfather
says the man who doesnt coonsider universal nation as a classic tune
and yah that was offtopic

You just made a great example of what he was talking about too.


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RebeL9
The Digital Blonde addict



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005
You just need to stop doing so negative everywhere... do you consider yourself a critic ? No you're not! Because you're constantly doing negative; you're just a stupid basher!

Users like you should get banned instantly for saying the same stuff over and over


yes ban me for expressing my personal view mr fascism anno 2006.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005
You just need to stop doing so negative everywhere... do you consider yourself a critic ? No you're not! Because you're constantly doing negative; you're just a stupid basher!

Users like you should get banned instantly for saying the same stuff over and over


I've seen Rebel9 make loads of positive posts on a load of different artists. So just shut the fuck up. You're exactly the type of person I'm talking about- you can't defend your tastes, so you just whine and aggravate any "negativity" there is on TA.


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noikeee
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: lost and wandering looking for directions.

And here we go with the whole negativity vs positivity discussion again.. "BALANCE" is the key word there, but some people can't see that.

I think Arksun is partially right, artists are perfectly entitled to produce whatever the fuck they want to. But in the same way fans are perfectly entitled to praise or criticise whatever they want to. It's just that on occasion some people go a little bit too far and make it personal.

As for Airwave and the quality/lack of quality of his trance, i don't give a fuck.


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toffy
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Well, please lets not go so far.

Although i cant remember a good comment of a trance track from him atm - and indeed i think he sometimes could give a constructive critic too - i have sometimes discover tracks thanks to him. For example, some of the Digital Blonde new tracks thanks to some samples in one of his posts.

Just please read the post and that's all.

Is not beautiful?

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The_G0dfather
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Corleone, Sicilia

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You just made a great example of what he was talking about too.


i know but still, classic arent something you can discuss about they're clasic or they're not, anyway been through this before.

And Push is more than capable to defend his taste !


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noikeee
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quote:
Originally posted by The_G0dfather
i know but still, classic arent something you can discuss about they're clasic or they're not, anyway been through this before.


i don't agree with you there at all

how come such a vague definition as "classic" can not be relative?


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washout
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: florida

you can like certain shit.
problem is so many elements (shit you may not like) are included with the shit you like.
deal with it and stfu.
and give me $10.


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feidias
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Nicosia,Cyprus

Ahh lovely post by arksun.There are some things that must be declared cause this is a BIG CAN OF WORMS that has been opened:

1)Yes arksun may be right to complain about some ppl in here which don't like today's trance but from the other side those ppl (which are many btw) are not complainin without a reason spending hours in a day doing discussions in the forums JUST to accuse a "bland" track.If it was for that they wouldn't bother.

Now what is keep bothering me is the fact that today's trance is not under conspiracy or under anything else as Arksun said but Producers are producing and they are doing their best according to their perception for trance(most of them) .It's just the perception for trance has evolved as has evolved in the past (1996).Also the producers from the gold 1999-2001 went out of the scene or they adjuct their style into the new perception for trance.How the hell anybody could expect anyway the gold 1999-2001 continue without these producers as leaders?
My 3 questions are:

1)What the FUCK did happen and trance evoluted so fast into what is now (from the moment it was so big with the old style)?

2)Why producers one after another left the scene or those who remained adjuct their style?

3)WHY TRANCE SCENE SHRINKED when that evolution happened?(and don't tell me it didn't shrinked)

I know i am reopening a big issue which has been discussed A LOT of times before but its been a long i see many opinions and arguements about this situation and nobody asked those 3 basic questions just that

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RebeL9
The Digital Blonde addict



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by feidias

2)Why producers one after another left the scene or those who remained adjuct their style?



easy one. they didn't want to be associated with the mix of pop music and trance which it clearly evolved into in early 2000.
many of the pioneers of trance which still had some dignity left the trance music. trance was simply not trance any longer.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

In 2001 there was a big backlash against anthemic trance. Progressive came in in a big way, which equally upset and delighted clubbers. I think that that brief movement left everyone confused, and this new wave of soft-synth McProg stuff emerged from the pieces.


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toffy
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I dont agree with that argument. Why trance has to be like it was in its roots? I like the mixtures of styles.

If trance would still be the same as 10 years ago we all be bothered of it.

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