looks like ill have to start burnin at 16x.
gotta go thru all my new ones i burned and re-burn em probably, bleh.
most were skipping in the cdj :/

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Incorrect.

care to explain to me how theres a difference then? as above, ive never had a problem with any music or data CDs except in the actual burning process...

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN care to explain to me how theres a difference then? as above, ive never had a problem with any music or data CDs except in the actual burning process...

have u played those cds in cdjs?

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Originally posted by kadomony have u played those cds in cdjs?

yeah. though not the nice n shiny top of the line stuff. im more than happy to be wrong, but ive never read that a successful burn was less stable (or whatever) at higher burn speeds.

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Im taking a guess but when its at a slower speed it probably cuts the ones and zeros better. A cdr is kind of cut away as you burn while a cd you buy in the store is normaly stamped. A stamped cd has the ones and zeros perfectly square |_|¯|_|_|_| where as in a cdr it is molded with the laser and (imagine the / are curved) is more like this |/|_|/|_|_|_|/|/|/|_| . A cd that is burnt slower probably has the / (on) cut more defined. Meaning that it wont confuse it for an |_| (off).
Thats my theory but the thing about the cdrs and stamped cds is all straight fact.

what matters the most is the quallity of the media you burn on. And the CD burner. Everybody knows that Plextor and NEC, among some other known brands, produces the best CD/DVD burners.

I've never had ANY problems playing cd-r's burnt on 32-48x.
But I never burn on no-names cd-r, I only burn on quallity cd-r.

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Originally posted by Illuminati what matters the most is the quallity of the media you burn on. And the CD burner. Everybody knows that Plextor and NEC, among some other known brands, produces the best CD/DVD burners. I've never had ANY problems playing cd-r's burnt on 32-48x. But I never burn on no-names cd-r, I only burn on quallity cd-r.

that is true. altho NEC isn't very good but Plextor is great. bad quality burners and cd-rs are usually the reason for coasters, but you will get better cds if you burn at slow speeds, even if you verify what you burn after burning it.
some players won't play the cd-rs that you've burnt fast properly and that is a fact but i can't explain any of the details because i don't know any of them.

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the only thing that burning speed has an impact on is wether or not the cd will have errors. so a cd burning at 1x will have the least chance of coming out a coaster when compared to a cd burned at 54x. also, you should match the speed of the media to the drives burning speed, so if you have a 24x cdr, it should be burned at that speed.

as for the best cd/dvd drives, Toshiba, Sony, NEC, Plextor, and HP make some of the best drives. you just have to know which model to get from which brand. Just like skip pointed out about NEC, some of thier drives are garbage, but others are quite good.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy Im taking a guess but when its at a slower speed it probably cuts the ones and zeros better. A cdr is kind of cut away as you burn while a cd you buy in the store is normaly stamped. A stamped cd has the ones and zeros perfectly square |_|¯|_|_|_| where as in a cdr it is molded with the laser and (imagine the / are curved) is more like this |/|_|/|_|_|_|/|/|/|_| . A cd that is burnt slower probably has the / (on) cut more defined. Meaning that it wont confuse it for an |_| (off). Thats my theory but the thing about the cdrs and stamped cds is all straight fact.

I'm pretty sure that's not it, in a binary system it's either on or off, and if I understood you correctly you're saying that when a cd drive is reading the cds it will sometimes confuse 1s for 0s. Any error reading from the disc will result in the player skipping.

I've heard this theory before, that sound quality degrades if you burn at high speeds. I burn mine at 48X with no problems with skipping so far, and I cant tell any difference. If it's true some audiophile here should be able to explain the science behind the theory.

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Originally posted by sirhiss I'm pretty sure that's not it, in a binary system it's either on or off, and if I understood you correctly you're saying that when a cd drive is reading the cds it will sometimes confuse 1s for 0s. Any error reading from the disc will result in the player skipping. I've heard this theory before, that sound quality degrades if you burn at high speeds. I burn mine at 48X with no problems with skipping so far, and I cant tell any difference. If it's true some audiophile here should be able to explain the science behind the theory.

actually i think you're wrong in that one (the bold one). cd players have a built in error correction method which has something to do with matrixes, but i dunno any more about that as it's really not my field of study and our math teacher wouldn't go further in to how they work. and i'm sorry if i'm being incosistent as i'm very drunk atm!

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Originally posted by skip actually i think you're wrong in that one (the bold one). cd players have a built in error correction method which has something to do with matrixes, but i dunno any more about that as it's really not my field of study and our math teacher wouldn't go further in to how they work. and i'm sorry if i'm being incosistent as i'm very drunk atm!

Yeah I'm sure they have some error correcting scheme, but my point was that the player will skip before it reads a 0 as a 1.
The fact that CDs are digital should mean ( as someone already said ) a CD burned successfully at 8X is the same as a cd successfully burned at 48X.
If I'm wrong someone correct me, but I don't understand how high speeds could possibly degrade sound quality.