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Originally posted by ô§§|E OK, you should go for the 2 x 1Gb sticks of RAM, i think most motherboards only run 2 channels in "dual channel", which is where u'll get the advantage, i dont think they run all 4 channels in this mode, it's been a while since i looked inti motherboards though tbh, so if i am wrong sorry, either way u'll have room to add more ram later this way Secondly, that example could not be more wrong, thats just not how searching algorithms with computers work, effectively you're making a "tree like" structure when searching, you never want to linear search which seems to be what you're suggesting. By your logic, 1 x 2Gb stick would be the best cause it would all be in the same "shelf". There's always gonna trade offs, but basically you're method doesnt work.

i see your point

so how about 2 x 2 gb sticks?

would that be as far as i could push it using 2 channels?

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Originally posted by ô§§|E Secondly, that example could not be more wrong, thats just not how searching algorithms with computers work, effectively you're making a "tree like" structure when searching, you never want to linear search which seems to be what you're suggesting. By your logic, 1 x 2Gb stick would be the best cause it would all be in the same "shelf". There's always gonna trade offs, but basically you're method doesnt work.

I know it's not correct at all if you know anything about this (I'm studying it right now so I know I'm totally off with that description) BUT the description works for people that don't want to waste a month studying system architecture

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

Forgive me for being lazy earlier. It's not that I didn't care. But I was too sleepy.

Who ever made the grocery store metaphor is spot on.

More ram is better, but don't forget to take in consideration FILE FRAGMENTATION. That's not good times either.

And also. You can have 4 gigs of ram. But if you have a celron chip (i exaggerate but you get the point) your boned.

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ohh yeah btw. how does OS X handle al RAM sizes over 3gb?

I know that windows have some major problems finding and working with anything above without using hotfixes and stuff, does OS X have the same problem?

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

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Originally posted by Vizay ohh yeah btw. how does OS X handle al RAM sizes over 3gb? I know that windows have some major problems finding and working with anything above without using hotfixes and stuff, does OS X have the same problem?

well i know that you can purchase a powermac from the apple website which is obviously assembled by apple... and you can get up to 14gb (something like an $11,000 usd upgrade!!!)of ram

i would imagine that since the ram is installed by apple and since they will be backing the computer with a warranty, it probably works quite well

Myles, this is it so listen up

The more RAM you buy the better. You wanna buy 11Gb of RAM, be my guest

However, if you're talking about which is better, 2 x 1Gb sticks, OR 1 x 2Gb stick, the answer is this; 2 x 1Gb.

Reasons;
1: Allows you to run your RAM in dual channel and can reap big performance rewards.
2: Sticks that are less dense (ex. 1 GB compared to 2 GB) usually have tighter timings, ie quicker/more reliable access times.
3: Give you some fault protection if 1 stick gets fried for whatever reason you can still get the machine to work, unlikely but stranger things have happened.
4: Room to upgrade when better RAM comes out, which it will
5: Should you be running a dual processor machine, you'll get a really nice boost in access times. (though i doubt you are running dual processors)

Ignore the advice if you want, or use it, it's upto you

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Originally posted by ô§§|E Myles, this is it so listen up The more RAM you buy the better. You wanna buy 11Gb of RAM, be my guest However, if you're talking about which is better, 2 x 1Gb sticks, OR 1 x 2Gb stick, the answer is this; 2 x 1Gb. Reasons; 1: Allows you to run your RAM in dual channel and can reap big performance rewards. 2: Sticks that are less dense (ex. 1 GB compared to 2 GB) usually have tighter timings, ie quicker/more reliable access times. 3: Give you some fault protection if 1 stick gets fried for whatever reason you can still get the machine to work, unlikely but stranger things have happened. 4: Room to upgrade when better RAM comes out, which it will 5: Should you be running a dual processor machine, you'll get a really nice boost in access times. (though i doubt you are running dual processors) Ignore the advice if you want, or use it, it's upto you

thanks for the advice and yeah this summer i plan on buying the powermac quadcore and going more or less "all out"

as i said before i plan on going all software for the time being and given that you all are edm producers and that you have suggested 2 x 1gb...

2x1gb it will be!!

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Originally posted by mylespower i plan on buying the powermac quadcore and going more or less "all out"

dammmmnnn, lucky you

hahah well its not quite luck.... but i am willing to make the necessary sacrifices to obtain such obscene toys lol



as i am studying at this moment... micro economics... its all about trade offs


its all about substitution people!!! and I am a "substituter"

haven't heard about their mega upgrades on RAM, prolly works good then (not suprising since they are basing their OS on BSD (can't remember if it's freeBSD or another version).

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Originally posted by ô§§|E Reasons; 1: Allows you to run your RAM in dual channel and can reap big performance rewards. 2: Sticks that are less dense (ex. 1 GB compared to 2 GB) usually have tighter timings, ie quicker/more reliable access times. processors)

1: True in theory, in practice the difference is so little that you never feel any real difference. But if you want nice benchmarks this is neat.

2: Totally true, and unlike nr. 1 it's a big difference in practice too.

can't really disagree with the other points either, good info there ô§§|E

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave