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Originally posted by evil_cookie Pat is a great coach, he's proven himself year after year. Toronto is falling apart because of their lack of teamwork as of late; a coach can only do so much.

He may be a great coach, but how have the leafs made out since he has been coaching them. Look at the playoffs year after year, they always fall apart. Which generally is the result of bad coaching.

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Originally posted by Dufouria he has SHIT ALL to work with.

Toronto does have a good team, a good mix of veterans and young players. Mind you they o have some new players this year that were just wrong for the team, Lindros for example. They have the talent, but Pat is not getting through to them.

Great coach or not it is still time for a new coach. And I'm not even a leafs fan.












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Originally posted by Spin Laden I think he's about to be toast now. They couldn't fire him before the olympics, especially if he'd turned around and won the gold.. would have made the leafs brass look more foolish than it already is (refs Allison, Lindros acquisitions and losses of Niewendyk and Roberts).

o.k i fucking hate this argument about roberts and nieuwendyk. they play a handful of games during the year and are ALWAYS injured. How would they help at all?

Quinn is a good coach and it doens't matter what anyone says he'll be in the hall of fame as a coach in 4 years after he retires. There is a limit what a coach can do and it's the players playing the game that are responsible for the results in the end. Leafs are doing poorly because of the way the players are playing the game, without any motivation. Now that is what Quinn should be responsible for, changing the players attitutes and motivation which he's not at the moment. I'm sorry but when you have guys like Clark Wilm, Nik Antropov, Wade Belak, Tie Domi, Chad Kilger, Alex Khavanov, you're simply not going to do very well. When Darcy Tucker is the team's leading goal scorer, it also tells you something about what kind of the year a team is having. It's time for some rebuildment in Toronto. Leafs have traded way too many young prospects over the years to try to build a Stanley Cup contender team. They've tried several times, they were close several times, but now they're stuck without both, a Stanley Cup winning team and no superstar young players such as Rick Nash or Alex Ovechkin. And that deal for Owen Nolan with the Sharks all of the sudden doesn't look so well. Remember Brad Boyes Toronto? That's what you get for trading the team's best young prospect with a 1st rounder for Nolan, and where's Nolan now? You can't just give up on your youth like that. Bottom line, both Quinn and Ferguson must go. It is time for a change in Toronto!

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Originally posted by Dufouria o.k i fucking hate this argument about roberts and nieuwendyk. they play a handful of games during the year and are ALWAYS injured. How would they help at all?

yeah, well those two mother f* seem to always peek against Ottawa in the playoffs. Toronto's not as gritty as before, unless Lindros can somehow get reinvigorated again. Since I'm from the west coast, Vancouver's my team!!!

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Once I took a piss in front of everybody at Stereo. Put the garbage under the mixer, and did it right there while people were dancing and screaming. people thought I was playing with the mixer but I was playing with my zizi.

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Originally posted by Enjoy a classic from the aria days: me: are you on TA? girl: uhhhh... im on speed

they wouldn't have made the playoffs regardless

I say get rid of him and sundin. I think toronto needs a shake up. It's obvious that they're not getting any closer to a cup with the direction they are heading in. my $0.02

Well, they still have a quarter of their season remaining so who knows? Toronto maybe missed the boat on the new NHL, unlike Buffalo, Carolina and the Rangers, who have gone to quicker teams, and have gotten results because of it. Those Leaf bastards could still make the playoffs and then knock out the Sens in the first round

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Once I took a piss in front of everybody at Stereo. Put the garbage under the mixer, and did it right there while people were dancing and screaming. people thought I was playing with the mixer but I was playing with my zizi.

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Originally posted by Enjoy a classic from the aria days: me: are you on TA? girl: uhhhh... im on speed