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Originally posted by Psy-T if 'we' would breed as much as 'you' do, the world would be in an even bigger mess by now (overpopulation among other things)

What do you mean. Population growth is great. Feed the children!
We need to burn down some more tropical rainforest & melt some more icecaps to make room for them all though.

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They never defend orphans
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It's "what can we do to be on God's" side

That was a great article, and it is a great theory about one of the causes of the recent rise of religious fundamentalism and fanaticism around the world.

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I alluded to this problem over a month ago when talking about how Bush got elected and how it's going to get worse because of birth rates and posted some links to stats - http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=3

It's really sad that some of you idiots think that overpopulating the planet and having a population race with opposing cultures is a good thing. It's the same stupid philosophy that caused the nuclear arms race between the US and the Soviets. BTW, can you imagine the Cold War if it were fought between religious fundamentalists on both sides

Lastly, these people may have more bodies to use as cannon fodder when a big relgious war breaks out, but they sure won't be of the intelligent sort. If you'd compare the education levels and IQs of that one kid born to the liberal minded family, i'd take it over the same for 5 kids born to conservatives who don't really have time to fully raise all of them well because they overburdened themselves.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy I alluded to this problem over a month ago when talking about how Bush got elected and how it's going to get worse because of birth rates and posted some links to stats - http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=3 It's really sad that some of you idiots think that overpopulating the planet and having a population race with opposing cultures is a good thing. It's the same stupid philosophy that caused the nuclear arms race between the US and the Soviets. BTW, can you imagine the Cold War if it were fought between religious fundamentalists on both sides

Yes, but at the moment it seems that you can either have a population race, or loose a demographic battle.

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Lastly, these people may have more bodies to use as cannon fodder when a big relgious war breaks out, but they sure won't be of the intelligent sort. If you'd compare the education levels and IQs of that one kid born to the liberal minded family, i'd take it over the same for 5 kids born to conservatives who don't really have time to fully raise all of them well because they overburdened themselves.

I don't think that the amount of children, as long as it's kept in reasonable bounds, has too much of an impact on the quality of upbringing. I know people who had a single child and raised it horribly, as well as some people who had 5 kids and raised them pretty succesfully.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I don't think that the amount of children, as long as it's kept in reasonable bounds, has too much of an impact on the quality of upbringing. I know people who had a single child and raised it horribly, as well as some people who had 5 kids and raised them pretty succesfully.

I'll agree that this happens. In some ways, you probably learn how to be a better parent through trial and error, so if you have 10, by 7 or 8, maybe you'd figure it out.

I'm just saying that when you're forced to divide attention between many children, sometimes you don't pay enough attention to each child's development.

I'm not against families of 3, as that's reasonable in terms of population growth considering the number of people who never have children, but I'm originally from an area with a large Amish population. These people have like 8-15 children/family and it's absurd. The women are just human incubators and the families look like rungs on a ladder. They quickly became the majority in my parent's voting district since moving to the region. That's a little unsettling considering that none of them have an education level higher than 8th grade.

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"Go back to bed america your government is in control
Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

I wonder who posted this topic first, the PD kids or that WhiteManAwake fool who got banned for double posting this stuff in MD. The aging population is old news, we've been underbreeding for a long time, yet the population continues to grow from people mostly outside the western world. It doesn't really bother me tbh, this isn't a war, they aren't trying to whipe us off the earth, they just want to survive.

Maybe being American distorts my persective on this, I'm a mixed breed, I see no problems in being genetically outnumbered because I have no single ethnicity that I can identify with. I feel like alot of these articles are attempts to scare us into having children, to fight to outnumber the other group, but that other group really isn't so bad, not to mention being conservative doesn't pass down through genes. I was born and raised in a religous fundie family but I changed my mind about some things when I got older.

Personaly I think there are more people on the planet than nature can sustainably support, but I'm not so cruel to suggest killing 3 out of 4 people. I can do my part to make the world better without mass producing children.

I suspect population growth worldwide will come to a screeching halt, which is a necessity for the survival of future generations. Until now nature has usually had checks & balances to the population growth of anything until humans interrupted the cycle. My predictions.

1) Bird flu will kill a large portion of the World Population, especially in countries where health care is poor.

2) Aids will continue to kill off a large part of the African Poplation, and will probably spread into the Middle East. The largest growth in AIDs victoms is women in Sub Saharan Africa, which will cause a massive drop in birth rate. The cost for caring for those victoms plus the likeliness of massive famines due to increased drought from global warming will make having more children very unpractical.

3) I would suspect that Iraq's civil war will continue for years. Not too many women will want to raise children in those conditions.

4) As South Americas & Indias consumer wealth grows, and as sending children to university becomes a priority of most children, parents will have smaller families. The size of families in Chile is getting as low as that in Western Europe.

5) The birth rate in Central America is rapidly falling, and family planning is becomming more popular there despite objections of the Catholic Church. Many of those countries plus ones in the Caribbean are already extremely crowded and migration to the U.S. & increasingly Canada will continue. Canada has actually announced last year that they plan on accepting 10 million new educated immigrants in the next 10 years to remain competitive, especially with the U.S. population being more than 7 times larger.

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CORRUPTION IS NOT A CHRISTIAN VALUE

Your rulers are rebels, friends with thieves
They all love bribes and run after gifts
They never defend orphans
They dont notice the widows pleas

Vote Christian! Vote Democrat!

It's not "God is on our side"
It's "what can we do to be on God's" side

I really cant complain that there is a large immigrant population in my area, including myself. Alot of my friends belong to many different backgrounds, and I've been to many different ethnic festivals & like foreign food, and from my observations - most of the good restaurants in my area are run by Latinos & Asians. While there has been alot of press on problems caused by the MS 13 recently, what they dont report is that there is a huge & growing legal Latino Middle Class of which many run their own businesses. As for the Electronic Music Scene, I cant really think of many countries that I havent met people from at Glow. It is a truly international scene there, and I've met alot of very interesting people there.

Also in the previous metro area I lived - Windsor, Ontario; that area is very diverse, especially with alot of Italians, Portugese, Greek, Serbian, Croatian, Lebanese, Pakistani & Chinese. The fact that there are people from almost every country in the world becomes obvious in the citywide ethnic fest "Carousal of the Nations" in June. Living there, if you really look at issues of crime, most of the problems there were from lazy, non immigrant, white trash ( just my own observation that immigrants tend to be better workers ) who want money, drugs & alcohol, but dont want to work for it, or obnoxious underage drunken tourist from Detroit.

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CORRUPTION IS NOT A CHRISTIAN VALUE

Your rulers are rebels, friends with thieves
They all love bribes and run after gifts
They never defend orphans
They dont notice the widows pleas

Vote Christian! Vote Democrat!

It's not "God is on our side"
It's "what can we do to be on God's" side