Personally I don't DJ, and probably never will in my entire life, unless someone really changes my mind, so what does that mean? I shouldn't get a penny for all my hard work?

DJ's put the compilations together, but if everyone were to DJ, there wouldn't be any tracks to put on the compilations.

I say enough with DJ's, every other house in Europe is a DJ these days...

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Originally posted by Shade You do realize most artists don't make very much money off of those compilations let alone productions themselves (on a large scale)? You're saying essentially that for spending days, weeks and sometimes months on a track, the producer should be making NOTHING? That's completely stupid.

I didn't mean it like that, but still the way things are now a days people will pirate you tracks off the net. You're still going to be getting ripped some how. Whether it's by your label company or people that pirate your stuff off the net. You still have to perform live, at least for the fans.

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Originally posted by djtroa I didn't mean it like that, but still the way things are now a days people will pirate you tracks off the net. You're still going to be getting ripped some how. Whether it's by your label company or people that pirate your stuff off the net. You still have to perform live, at least for the fans.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again (just because you keep proving it to me).

You're an idiot

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Originally posted by Shade I've said it before, and I'll say it again (just because you keep proving it to me). You're an idiot

from what i can see, he's basically saying there's next to fuck all money in the trance scene nowadays unless you play out. which is pretty much the truth for the majority of producers. i don't really see how that makes him an idiot?

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Originally posted by isoterra from what i can see, he's basically saying there's next to fuck all money in the trance scene nowadays unless you play out. which is pretty much the truth for the majority of producers. i don't really see how that makes him an idiot?

So the producer should HAVE to DJ to earn money? From what I gather from his comments (and the idea behind the first post of the thread), he's saying producers should be giving out their tracks for free until it comes to something like a compilation or their playing it out on their own sets. That doesn't sound stupid to you?

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Originally posted by Shade So the producer should HAVE to DJ to earn money? From what I gather from his comments (and the idea behind the first post of the thread), he's saying producers should be giving out their tracks for free until it comes to something like a compilation or their playing it out on their own sets. That doesn't sound stupid to you?

it sounds stupid yeah, just i didn't interpret that way

saying producers should HAVE to do anything is stupid, but i don't think that's what the threadstarter was suggesting

threadstarter suggests the following,

in order to maximise reach one should give away one's tracks,

there is plenty of money to be made by gigging and merchandise,

music should be used as a marketing tool, it's the brand of the personaa that rakes in the money

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Originally posted by pvdclubber threadstarter suggests the following, in order to maximise reach one should give away one's tracks, there is plenty of money to be made by gigging and merchandise, music should be used as a marketing tool, it's the brand of the personaa that rakes in the money

Be honest - are you just looking for ways to justify illegally downloading tracks?

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Originally posted by pvdclubber threadstarter suggests the following, in order to maximise reach one should give away one's tracks, there is plenty of money to be made by gigging and merchandise, music should be used as a marketing tool, it's the brand of the personaa that rakes in the money

...and the ones that don't do gigs?

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Originally posted by pvdclubber threadstarter suggests the following, in order to maximise reach one should give away one's tracks, there is plenty of money to be made by gigging and merchandise, music should be used as a marketing tool, it's the brand of the personaa that rakes in the money

seeing as the most common & widespread form of distribution is through shops, i can't see how giving away tracks would get anywhere near to maximising reach

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Originally posted by pvdclubber threadstarter suggests the following, in order to maximise reach one should give away one's tracks, there is plenty of money to be made by gigging and merchandise, music should be used as a marketing tool, it's the brand of the personaa that rakes in the money

To be honest, I don't think we need a whole bunch of Tiestos running around in the industry selling merchandise to make their profit rather than music (I'm not holding anything against him, but he makes a valid example). Music should certainly not be used primarily as a marketting tool, otherwise it's being made for all the wrong reasons. The artist should not conform to what society demands, but rather what they feel works. Making edits and whatnot for labels demands is fine, but artists should never be shaping their whole tracks around others.

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Originally posted by isoterra seeing as the most common & widespread form of distribution is through shops, i can't see how giving away tracks would get anywhere near to maximising reach

mouth-propaganda, many indie artists have made it that way, see artic monkeys