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i have seen ppl od on G and its not fun too watch....

indeed, a friend of mine just died this past saturday from a ghb overdose.

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let me put the amount in perspective. now, normally a cap from a water bottle will suffice for a dose of GHB

i understand what you were trying to say here, but i have to point out that this is an EXTREMELY bad way of figuring out your dose of ghb.

the problem with ghb is that the concentration is erratic, and could be different from one batch to the next. your normal dose may be 2 mL, with a certain concentration. however, another batch of ghb could be twice as concentrated, which means you take the same amount (a capful) and end up taking twice your dose, and thus, potentially od'ing, and death.

this is why if you deal with drugs such as this, you do the smart thing and buy 1-4-b, which essentially has the same effects of GHB, but has a regulated dose, which means your dose is your dose is your dose, and therefore, extremely hard to OD and die like it is on GHB.

personally, ill never touch GHB. too damn risky, its like playing roulette, with what the concentration might be.

i was wondering what Sothis had to say on this subject. i am indeed very sad to hear of your friend, i don't know what to say beyond that. please accept my utmost condolences.

but i must ask, was the death a direct cause from an overdose? or was that s/he passed out and asphyxiated? the latter is much more common in ghb-related deaths.
i've never heard of 1-4-b, and i'm not so sure that it's available here in my deadzone city. might as well go talk to my good friends at www.hyperreal.org.

overdosing is not uncommon in ghb-users, but the most you'll (generally) see is someone g'ing-out (kinda like passing out drunk) or getting nauseous. but that's beside the point; a drug is a drug is a drug. yaeh, i think i'm with you Sothis, i'm not touching that stuff ever again.

bse

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Erowid strongly recommends that all liquid GHB be colored with blue food coloring. This serves a dual purpose of reducing the chance that it will be mistaken for water, which though unlikely, does happen...as well as reducing the possibility that it can be added to a drink without someone's knowledge. An additional safety precaution when using GHB is to write "G" or "GHB" on your hand, so in the unfortunate event that you are found unconscious, those caring for you will know the cause. Be safe.

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yea... he wasnt a good friend, but someone i knew (and most people knew) in the scene around here. good kid, didnt deserve death.

im not sure exactly what happened, but he took too much, went home, and his roommate found him later, dead.

as far as 14b, give me a bit of time and ill get you a link. its a chemical... and like i said, regulated dose. very common to get online.

www.camarklabs.com is one place but its expensive, there are cheaper places, normally tho you can get a liter for 80 dollars, which is tons and tons of doses.

so yea. if anyone is considering doing g, if you really need to do it, do 14b so you are safe.

god, you scare me girl!

14b is legal? interesting.
is there potential for overdose? i suppose there is for anything..
thank you for the info.

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well done BSE you are a nutte r

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" You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip
through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us will-
ing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert."

i suppose i am. is that a bad thing?

hey, does 14b taste like ghb? i really hope not.. that is the most sick taste i've ever tasted. it's so salty it makes me want to wretch when i think of it.

scary note: i did some of the GHB that my friend had OD'd on last night.. my friend gave me a tad more than a cap (average dose) and i passed out.. so i can only imagine how much a gulp would hurt me.

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Nice story BSE! Although the primary subject is somewhat of a despressing one, I commend you for having the personal strength to write it in this funny way. I actually laughed out loud at that m$-comment.