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Choobak
i need my funk



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: NYC

I'm not too pessimistic about GM. I mean if I really thought they were going bankrupt I wouldn't mention selling puts on it. I think there's very little chance the stock price is gonna drop below $15 so those $12.50 puts should be a safe - like I said, you're looking at a 30% gain in 5 months if you get those and the stock doesn't tank 30% by then. Even better, whatever you hold as margin, you can just throw in money markets and make another 2% over the time period. w0000t!

I'm really only near term pessimistic right now. I think the market should do fine as well once the fed stops raising rates.

Someone mentioned to me though that they may not stop raising rates for along time. His reasoning was that since other economies are raising rates, the US will have to keep raising rates so money keeps flowing in in order to sustain the current account deficit. I'm not too knowledgeable about major macroeconomic stuff like that so I'm going to do some research into the how the current account deficit effects fed rate decisions to see exactly what the effect could be.


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Old Post Apr-10-2006 22:37  Switzerland
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LinX
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Chicago, IL

how are your portfolios doing overall?

gains? losses?

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Azz3D
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you guys read my mind
this thread is just what I needed since I opened a scott trade account today


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Old Post Apr-11-2006 01:52  Yugoslavia
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stevieboy32808
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Re: Re: Stocks

quote:
Originally posted by SidMl
GM's selling their foreign, profitable businesses to pay for losses in the US. Throwing good money after bad. IMHO they should stop focusing on size and market share and instead cut their lines and look after profits. Other than that, I don't really know anything about their operating financials.

Or they could stop making crappy cars. I was watching the news regarding GM and the quality of their cars. Mechanics overall stated that a GM car will break down more times in 5 years than a Toyota in 10 years. So far Toyota has taken the lead over American manufacturers when it comes to quality.

P.S. - Buy low, sell high.

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madhattared
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Registered: Jun 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Azz3D
you guys read my mind
this thread is just what I needed since I opened a scott trade account today


be careful man, don't do anything we say unless you fully understand the situation of the trade / investment.

do you have enough to trade options?


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Azz3D
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quote:
Originally posted by madhattared
be careful man, don't do anything we say unless you fully understand the situation of the trade / investment.

do you have enough to trade options?


don't worry, I won't buy anything anytime soon
I need read A LOT first before I make any moves
I don't want to rush into it

they have a $500 minimum deposit (which is what I have currently), I'm assuming that's not enough to trade options...


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SidMl
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Re: Re: Re: Stocks

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Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Or they could stop making crappy cars. I was watching the news regarding GM and the quality of their cars. Mechanics overall stated that a GM car will break down more times in 5 years than a Toyota in 10 years. So far Toyota has taken the lead over American manufacturers when it comes to quality.

P.S. - Buy low, sell high.


American cars, and American manufactured goods in general, were never built for durability (at least in the last 30 years). Buy, use, replace. That's why they try to introduce new models every year, to keep people buying. The Ford Model T stayed the same for a decade* and the European car manufacturers still have long design cyles. GM just can't compete in open global markets. IMHO Ford still has a fighting chance.


* I just made that up, but it was a really long time.


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SidMl
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Some more free advice for anyone who wants to take it.

A couple of months back I realized that I was making enough money but spending all of it. So now, from every paycheck I move a portion into my trading account. Each paycheck, I pick one new stock or add to an existing position and rarely sell anything. I don't mind if I these stocks go down, because I probably would have squandered the money anyways.

I spend the days leading to each paycheck thinking about what I'm going to invest it in. It's tons of fun. Since it's only bi-weekly, I don't make impulse buying decisions. And since I know I'm not going to sell anything near-term I don't spend too much time watching my portfolio.

I now have a decent amount in 10 stocks and it feels great. Time flies and before you know it, small amounts add up.


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madhattared
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quote:
Originally posted by SidMl
I now have a decent amount in 10 stocks and it feels great. Time flies and before you know it, small amounts add up.


you're better off putting that money in index funds. if you do this for 10 years, you'll be shocked at how fast it grows, basically every week buy an even amount of each. IJJ IJS

they're a better because a stock can go to zero, these won't ever.


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Old Post Apr-11-2006 22:58  United States
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Choobak
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Registered: Apr 2002
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If you're putting money away weekly, watch out for those brokerage fees. Putting it in ETF's like IJS and IJJ will cost you a lot if you do weekly transactions since they are subject to regular trading fees. If you do plan on making frequent, small contributions, you're best off putting it in a mutual fund that'll just track the indices. Mutual funds rarely charge anything upfront but instead have higher expense ratios than equivalent ETF's. This, however, isn't as costly as the brokerage fees when you're making lots of small transactions.


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SidMl
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quote:
Originally posted by madhattared
you're better off putting that money in index funds. if you do this for 10 years, you'll be shocked at how fast it grows, basically every week buy an even amount of each. IJJ IJS

they're a better because a stock can go to zero, these won't ever.


agreed. a decently diversified portfolio is also unlikely to go to zero. also part of my incentive is getting to choose the investments. a single index tracker might get boring but I do have a some country and sector iShares.


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