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Originally posted by azndragon0613 ok guys...i'm seriously about to like give this whole thing up...my ears are banging from hearing the same tweaks again and again.... i know the sample probably has a lot of mids right now but unfortunatley i want presence/clarity and that comes only in the 250-800 hz range...might toss the bassline but i think the second sample hits things better? Do i still need a lower bassline? Thanks guys!

Seriously, don't get in a fuss over this. The bassline is fine.

These comments are just nitpicks, and when it comes to mixing, my view is that you can't be too picky. Duke Ellington said, "If it sounds good and feels good, it is good." That bassline fits the bill.

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ok so...i feel this worked for me.
on your kick...cut 93 hz by about 2db. 850 hz by about 5 db. 2khz by about 1db. & 6800hz by about 4db.
on you bass cut 62 hz by 5 db. 133 hz by 14db. 191 hz by 10db. & 90 hz by 15db.
also...if you use these try & keep the bands narrow so fewer neighboring freq are effected.

i also listened to your samples...they did sound good. i don't feel your bass is lacking much.
as a matter of preference...i'd stick w/ the key of your first sample. but that's just me.

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Originally posted by DJ 5NAK3 ok so...i feel this worked for me. on your kick...cut 93 hz by about 2db. 850 hz by about 5 db. 2khz by about 1db. & 6800hz by about 4db. on you bass cut 62 hz by 5 db. 133 hz by 14db. 191 hz by 10db. & 90 hz by 15db. also...if you use these try & keep the bands narrow so fewer neighboring freq are effected.

Don't do this. Just because those frequencies worked for that specific song doesn't mean they'll work for this one. EQing is a process of trial and error, even for the pros. They're just more efficient with their trials.

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Old sample sounds alot like Perpetuos Dreamer - The Sound Of Goodbye.

Sounds good to me though...

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christ...

ok let me clarify...i stated this worked for me - based on the samples i used.
of course all samples are not created equal & therefore when implementing technical eq'in you must keep in mind that there will be a variance in exactly where those problem freq lie and to what degree must you cut those freq will also vary.

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Damn guys, thanks for all the help. I've worked on the bassline a lot and I've managed to get things running a bit more smoothly. It really just came down to listening to some songs, eqing and getting a feel for a good thumper. I've uploaded a refurbished sample. It has a mid and with a much better low. Looking for kind of a progressive/uplifting style. Works for me! Hope it's better. Thanks again everyone!

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Last edited by azndragon0613 on Apr-11-2006 at 07:18

Personally, my favorite of the bunch is the second try. The third try, the bass didn't have enough prescence. Sure, there was some muddy frequencies in there, but you shouldn't pay attention to them too much. Just take a break, come back after 15 minutes, drop some freqs and turn up the volume... then, finish the rest of the track.

I for one, have spent WAYYYYYYY too much time doing exactly what you are doing: making trance loops and giving up before the project is completed. Then again... practice does make perfect, and these are kindof like "drills" if you ask me. Really, where is the balance in production?

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this is sounding pretty good. what you using to create your bassline?

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I'm using 3xosc and wasp only. Thanks for the comments guys. I'm just going to make the song. See you in a week ;-)

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I wanna know how you are using these synths, i hate you

Dude, this all sounds really nice.

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this what with all the comments and all but if I had to pick anything out and it is purely a question of taste, is that the kick sound is wrong for the song and probably at the very least has a tail that's too long.

As I said, in my opinion it doesn't fit the rest of the track. It seems to slop along with the rest of the track and has no punch.

When it comes to frequencies from bass and kick in trance, quite often you find yourself in a trade off position on which one to tame more. I think if you picked a similar kick but with a bit more definition and perhaps a shorter tail you could be a bit more generous with the frequencies on the bassline.

That said it is your song and you have done a great job on it so far.

Just my opinion.

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wow, your samples are awesome!

I like that...

hope you can show us how you did it ^_^

cheers!