If they aint American. Nobody in America will care. (and canadians will hear about it for weeks)
As Cale said, it is a shame. But its on the other side of the planet. Unless you have family or friends over there.. the best any of you can do is pretend to care.
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Apr-11-2006 20:49
The Highroller
ad hoc and ad lib
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Flying over the cuckoo's nest
Can anyone suggest a good, unbiased (yes, I know that is nearly impossible) source to read up on the issue between Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims? I would really like to become informed on this issue.
Apr-11-2006 21:09
Orko
Digital Hippie
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
Can anyone suggest a good, unbiased (yes, I know that is nearly impossible) source to read up on the issue between Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims? I would really like to become informed on this issue.
I know, I've been trying to find the same. Alas it seems that anybody truly writting about the subject has some kind of hidden agenda.
Trust no one.
Apr-11-2006 21:11
drgoodvibe
skoun'drl
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: In the flash
quote:
Originally posted by Orko
I know, I've been trying to find the same. Alas it seems that anybody truly writting about the subject has some kind of hidden agenda.
Sunni
Main article: Sunni Islam
Sunni Islam is the largest denomination of Islam - the Ahl al-Sunna wa al-Jama'ah.
According to Sunni thought, Muhammad died without appointing a successor to lead the Muslim community. After an initial period of confusion, a group of his most prominent companions gathered and elected Abu Bakr, the Prophet's close friend and father-in-law, as the first Caliph.
Sunnis initially believed that the position of Caliph should be democratically chosen, but after the first four Rightly Guided Calliphs the position turned into a hereditary dynastic rule. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire in 1923, there has never been another Caliph.
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Shi'a
Main article: Shi'a Islam
Shi'a Islam is the second largest denomination of Islam.
Shi'a Muslims believe that Ali was appointed by Muhammad to be the direct successor and leader of the Muslims. They regard him as the first Imam, which continued as a hereditary position. The largest group of Shi'a Muslims believe in a total of 12 Imams. The Shi'a Hadiths include the sayings of the Imams.
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
Can anyone suggest a good, unbiased (yes, I know that is nearly impossible) source to read up on the issue between Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims? I would really like to become informed on this issue.
I find BBC to be the most unbiased for nearly everything. Followed by Reuters.
Apr-11-2006 23:07
GQ_IRAQI
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Canada
quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
HAHAH 47 dead HAHAHHAHAHA
and they had noi impact on my life HAHAHAHAHAH OMG HAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHA
wow talk about no regard for human life... meh no one said u had to care.. but u dont have to be a blatant asshole about it... i hope no one speaks about ur worthless ass like that when ur time comes...
as a shia muslim... my deepest condolences to those who have been affected... this feud between shia's and sunni's has to end... its stupid and is caused by way too much ignorance.
Apr-12-2006 01:40
samhouse
Scenester
Registered: May 2003
Location: Toronto
As a shia muslim i can honestly say that I have yet to read an "unbiased" version of the history involved. It is long, complex and another example of a severe weakness in human beings to be in power.
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by GQ_IRAQI
wow talk about no regard for human life... meh no one said u had to care.. but u dont have to be a blatant asshole about it... i hope no one speaks about ur worthless ass like that when ur time comes...
He was mocking me from another thread.
Apr-12-2006 02:01
The Highroller
ad hoc and ad lib
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Flying over the cuckoo's nest
quote:
Originally posted by samhouse
As a shia muslim i can honestly say that I have yet to read an "unbiased" version of the history involved. It is long, complex and another example of a severe weakness in human beings to be in power.
a sad day indeed.
Then can someone give me 2 sources that are summaries from each side's perspective?
Originally posted by The Highroller
Then can someone give me 2 sources that are summaries from each side's perspective?
i have some excellent journal articles (scholarly sources from both perspectives) from research papers Graham I can give them to you if u'd like!!!
This is a sad event, pretty much all of my mom's family lives in Karachi but they live in a different area! I'm making a trip down there end of August after Europe and I'll be doing some research for the Canadian consulate in Karachi, things should be ok its only certain areas that are targets of violence and keep popping up in the news etc but u never know..this can happen anywhere!
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Apr-12-2006 15:19
Abercrombie
myspace.com/ashesband
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Aurora Borealis
even here.
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