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Originally posted by starboy can someone please explain in detail what the filters on the a&h's do???

Yup, it's basically a band pass filter.
It can be used to create nice swoopy effects and if used correctly can work as an EQ.

A band pass filter with resonance set high is one of the major components of a lot of swoosh sounds in production.
If you create white noise and filter it, voila, you have a swoosh a la trance.

In terms of over all usefulness I think they score pretty low especially if you compare it to a DJM 600 or 800 in my opinion, but the actual quality of the effect itself is very high.

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I agree there really is no need for an a&h in a bedroom setting. I could have kept my Pioneer or Vestax but I bought a 92 anyway because i could and I enjoy using it. Everyone has different priorities...

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I think in the higher quality mixers its more than the sound quality it’s the sound quality you get when in the mix. Before I owned my Bozak, and later on I got a Urei as well. I had a Stanton and than a Vestax mixer. When two tracks are playing at the same time, the higher quality mixers in my experience do a much better job at allowing the individual elements of each track to come clearly in the mix. In any sound system large or small the front end will have the greatest impact on the sound. I have never had anyone come over and mix at my house and say they didn't notice a difference. You can make the same cost argument for any piece of gear. In the end you get what you pay for.


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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Yup, it's basically a band pass filter. It can be used to create nice swoopy effects and if used correctly can work as an EQ. A band pass filter with resonance set high is one of the major components of a lot of swoosh sounds in production. If you create white noise and filter it, voila, you have a swoosh a la trance. In terms of over all usefulness I think they score pretty low especially if you compare it to a DJM 600 or 800 in my opinion, but the actual quality of the effect itself is very high. Cheers Nem

I think this may have swooshed right over his head...

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 In my case, I make mixes for radio and promotional CDs that are handed out at club nights so I like to have the tools to do the job in the best way I feel possible. I think that feeling might be true for a lot of the guys here, and they just want to do the best that they possibly can. Even if the difference is psychological, if it helps them get to where they want to be then who are we to argue. There is a definate plus to the feel of a smooth well put together mixer at your finger tips but I agree that you should be able to get the job done on lesser quality gear. There are many reasons why you may want to pay extra for a seemingly unjustified piece of kit, but I think the reasons go much deeper than sound quality alone. Edit - The sound quality is only as good as the weakest piece of kit that you have, but you have to start improving somewhere. Cheers Nem

true, a good mixer will allow you to sound the way you want to sound. -especially for dj's have more of the long smooth fade kind of a style like my self. low/mid range mixers usually aren't built w/us in mind. either the faders are too short (45mm) or the curve isn't ideal for what we want to do. a low end mixer is just that, a low end mixer, all it's ever gonna do is "just get the job done"... but never to our level of expectations, or touch on what is truley possible.

As I'm sure many people have already mentioned, these mixers have features on them that are both enjoyable and useful. Yes, you probably aren't going to need professional sound quality in your bedroom (which is why people rarely buy Xone V6's for their home setups), but the features packed into these mixers makes them worth the price.

Me, I want a Nuo 5.

A&H suck... they just shot down my application for a job.

economically, its not a wise choice but if youre an audiophile, youre an audiophile and fetishes like that will run you a high bill no matter what you like.

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Originally posted by richg101 why buy a professional mixer like a A+h/urei/etc for like £1000 when its use is for bedroom djing? i just dont get the point? sure, if you need a ultra high quality low noise mixer for large events where noise matters then buy one. but is there really a point in getting a touring grade dj mixer for use in the bedroom? im just curious because in my 8 years as a dj i have never once dreamed of blowing a grand on a mixer. i will be purchasing a mixer of this high quality once my pa hire company fully takes off. but for use as a piece of hire equipment. people will say - 'you can tell the difference on your recordings!' - i dissagree. i await to hear your views

First of all. Are you the mixer police??

Who are you to come on and preach to people? I have never wasted my time with low end mixers for several reasons. Function, usablity and ENJOYMENT. Sound qulaity is not something the really comes into it. You stick toyour Numark Blue Dog, but don't come on here all high and mighty as if we are wrong to use our money any way we please..

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Originally posted by WeasiL I bought a 92 anyway because i could and I enjoy using it. Everyone has different priorities...

thats what it all comes down to IMO.

consider that people easily spend more than that amount on very minor upgrades on a car for example. If sound quality if your things, GPB1000 is not really all that much to spend. add to that quality, you get functions that other mixers don't have, filters, 4 band eq, it can well be worthwhile, depending on what you value

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Originally posted by kimchi thats what it all comes down to IMO.

Yep, if you use it then it's good that you buy it!

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