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i got big pants
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

i like to do a quick bass kill only when i know it'll add to the energy of my set...feel like it has that head slamming into the ground effect...

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Lunar Phase 7
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Zone 4

Yeah, Dont let 2 Basslines overlap. Thats just dumb.

For most melodic trance the bass switch (kill outgoing bass bring in full incoming bassline) works really well. Almost every DJ I hear uses this method.

You can do this slower, for basslines that are present from the start, or if your mix isnt full on trance.

Leaving 2 basslines though is rediculous.

Old Post Apr-18-2006 00:15  United Kingdom
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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by alefort
wtf? All these responses are bogus, sorry.

Myself, and all my close friends constantly mix with the basslines at normal EQ levels. We have had no problems, the basslines don't DOUBLE in volume, when overlayed frequencies do not add up, they simply lay on top of each other. So in the end, most Basslines are 'engulfed' by another bassline as they usually fit within each other.

This strikes me as weird that some people kill the bassline in one song and then switch at some point, to be quite frank, that will only work if the two basslines are EXACTLY the same.

Quite frankly, if you cannot mix basslines, there is something fundamental missing in your learning steps.



I guess your mixer doesnt have VU meters, cause you'd notice it very quickly then. Redlining sucks.


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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia

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Originally posted by Clovis86
I guess your mixer doesnt have VU meters, cause you'd notice it very quickly then. Redlining sucks.


Even then, hearing two kicks, as well, should be very noticeable.

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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:
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Even then, hearing two kicks, as well, should be very noticeable.


Apparently not for him.


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Wraith
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Palos Hills, IL

quote:
Originally posted by alefort
wtf? All these responses are bogus, sorry.

Myself, and all my close friends constantly mix with the basslines at normal EQ levels. We have had no problems, the basslines don't DOUBLE in volume, when overlayed frequencies do not add up, they simply lay on top of each other. So in the end, most Basslines are 'engulfed' by another bassline as they usually fit within each other.

This strikes me as weird that some people kill the bassline in one song and then switch at some point, to be quite frank, that will only work if the two basslines are EXACTLY the same.

Quite frankly, if you cannot mix basslines, there is something fundamental missing in your learning steps.


I dunno what kind of music you're mixing, but when I try mixing songs with the bass full in on both tracks, 9/10 times it sounds completely naff....

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Omega_Blue
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Gone

quote:
Originally posted by alefort
wtf? All these responses are bogus, sorry.

Myself, and all my close friends constantly mix with the basslines at normal EQ levels. We have had no problems, the basslines don't DOUBLE in volume, when overlayed frequencies do not add up, they simply lay on top of each other. So in the end, most Basslines are 'engulfed' by another bassline as they usually fit within each other.

This strikes me as weird that some people kill the bassline in one song and then switch at some point, to be quite frank, that will only work if the two basslines are EXACTLY the same.

Quite frankly, if you cannot mix basslines, there is something fundamental missing in your learning steps.


i disagree with you on this one. a lot of times whenn i'm fucking around i'll let the two tracks play out without fuckin with the eq's, but that's only to tell if they'll sound good together or not.

if you don't blend or switch the conflicting basslines, it'll sound really muddy.

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Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by alefort
wtf? All these responses are bogus, sorry.

Myself, and all my close friends constantly mix with the basslines at normal EQ levels. We have had no problems, the basslines don't DOUBLE in volume, when overlayed frequencies do not add up, they simply lay on top of each other. So in the end, most Basslines are 'engulfed' by another bassline as they usually fit within each other.

This strikes me as weird that some people kill the bassline in one song and then switch at some point, to be quite frank, that will only work if the two basslines are EXACTLY the same.

Quite frankly, if you cannot mix basslines, there is something fundamental missing in your learning steps.


i know of some people who do that.
but using the crossfader with a gradual curve.
it sounds shit if u use the faders. unless ur using the gain to control the channel volume.


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alefort
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Registered: May 2005
Location: London, Ontario, Canada

I am not going to say a thing, but I invite each and everyone one of you to sample the first 15 minutes of my april promo mix. And I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the basslines were left untouched, and as I mixed the peak level for each channel ran between 0dB-2dB. Have a listen and tell me what you guys think....

Link:

http://www.andrelefort.com/media/mp...xing_sample.mp3

In my previous post, I was not trying to say your methods are incorrect, but to simply think that my method is flawed is extremely near sighted. I have been mixing in this manner since I started and it sounds great to myself, and everyone else who enjoys my sets. I am not the only one who mixes in this manner, all of my close DJ friends also mix in this manner and we have no issues.

I have never been one to kill a channel in order to mask it, in my eyes (this is my opinion) I consider it cheating to be killing a channel, especially the lows. I DJ for the love of the music and the challenge it provides me. Why would I want to reduce that challenge? That is why you will find me mixing with the lows at 12o'clock on each channel.

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djkoolaide
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Basslines usually don't mix together, but it can be done.

For example, Starkid - Crayons (Leama and Moor Remix) and Ridgewalkers feat. El - Find (Andy Moor Mix) go perfectly together.

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Lunar Phase 7
Not a Flying Toy.



Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Zone 4

Koolaid, thats cause they are the same bassline :P

And cutting low end isnt cheating.

thats like saying using channel faders is cheating. Its just a tool to help.

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alefort
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Registered: May 2005
Location: London, Ontario, Canada

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Koolaid, thats cause they are the same bassline :P

And cutting low end isnt cheating.

thats like saying using channel faders is cheating. Its just a tool to help.


That is true, but like I said, it was merely my opinion....I have retardedly high standards for certain things, others don't.

Old Post Apr-18-2006 14:26  Canada
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