so thats what i mean. i should at least have 40 seconds before any changess. and what increments do you guys do. Half percent or less?

there is no set amount and actually i've heard people say that the adjustment is usually so small that a simple spindle twist or nudge of the side would do the trick.

well thats what i have to do to correct the speed
...i set the percentages as close as possible (to the 1/4th of a percent if possible) and then i have to catch the speed up or slow it down manually with a quick push on the vynil or slight break on the platter. ive gotten pretty good with that. lol

it shouldnt be much. if its too much you need to practice more. if im out its only by a fraction. the slightest touch gets it back on track.

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you make adjustments less than 1/2 of a percent?

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dont no the percentage but its not that much. i make sure its perfect b4 i mix it

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i have a bit of experience w/this problem...

actually, i would not put 100% of the blame on the turntables.

i would split it into 3 parts.

1) turntable

2) the music

3) the dj

1) we've already discussed the turntable, so i won't...

2) sometimes, it's difficult to really hold it down because of the difference in tempos. i have found that if two songs were written at similar tempos say one @110 the second @ 112 doesn't matter if play the first record @ 0%, +2%, or -4% it's easier for me to keep the two songs together for a longer period of time.

3) sometimes we have concentration lapses, off days... we can't be perfect all the time. sometimes it's difficult to be a precicse as can or usually are because of the envoirnment.

but i also blame a lot of people for just being ignorant, or just plain stupid for simply expecting their equipment to just keep it together like magic, becuase they (the dj) thinks (sometimes erroniously) that they are an awsome beatmatcher .

it's litterally impossible to play two songs that were written in two different at the exact same speed for more than several minutes, especially when you add in imperfection of manual cuing. sure you can get one record to play @ exactly 120.628554126 bpm but not the second one. you're ALWAYS going to be a little off, therefore YOU'RE the problem, not the turntable, so don't cry when you have to correct after a while, or wonder why to songs will not stay together after 15-20 minutes.

i never understood why people always want to blame the equipment, instead of just sucking it up, and keep on trucking. it's part of being a dj. if it's too much for you, sell yor TT's and CDJ's, and just stick ableton. pussies. j/k

really good points

lol. nice way to put it. the other thing is that i only use final scratch. and i know the key matching feature will severely wabble the speed when trying to correct the pitch of a track at a different speed. (especially over 3 %). But i digitally analyze my tracks and usually dont mix with tracks greater than 1 bpm difference (because of my amateurism in djing). I have off days, and i know very well what those are like. its just that recently ive had those off days more than usual. ill take my powerbook and fs to a friend's pair of sl1200's and stop being a little bitch about it. i was just wondering if you guys knew any of the calibration techniques they do at turntable shops for direct drives. thanks for the advice though. lol

I've never had trouble (other than when i first started) keeping 2 songs beatmatched long enough to do a smooth mix, i also find it easier to do so with 2 1200 m3ds rather than my cdj-1000's. But even when I was having to correct all the time i never even thought of it as a problem...or i didnt blame the equipment, i mean i started out with 2 gemini SA-600s...and i still didn't blame the equipment, that's a HUGE part of being a DJ, fix yer error before the crowd hears it, you can't be perfect all the time unless you're a pure laptop dj, and well, you dont wanta be one of those.

i would like to be one of those. i used traktor dj. i had more control on FS. maybe i just suck at traktor too. but i like to scratch too. on FS every now and then. couldnt do it with traktor dj. Then i heard PVD using live 5 (ableton), but i would hate to get rid of my vynil collection. i just get too nostalgic with those 12 inches.

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Originally posted by serginka (because of my amateurism in djing)

theres your problem right there. You need to practise. Practise = solution to the majority of your problems. Yes crappy decks will pitch all over the place, but with practise you will still be able to do some nice mixes. Yes you will need to do some pitch bending mid mix, but thats all a skill that you need to perfect, no matter what decks you are using.

Don't try to be Sasha too early, realise that it takes time to be able to mix perfectly like djs who play in clubs.

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