Do NOT blame americans here. The Shah was a great man in my eyes in a nation of islamo-psychos, though he did get rid of democractic opposition as well.

His son is more of a leader than even the Shah and definatly the hitler-lover that's running the nation now.

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Originally posted by Lemonad Persia had it's own religion before Islam was forced upon them and that's why im saying remove it from Iran.

Islam was introduced to persia in the 7th century, and from then on, became the largest religion in that region. Certain aspects of Zoroastrianism (Which I'm assuming is the religion you are refferring to, and if it isn't, you are wrong) were absorbed into Islamic law naturally, and peacefully. This is a religion (Islam), which was cemented into the culture of that region over 14 centuries ago.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Islam was introduced to persia in the 7th century, and from then on, became the largest religion in that region. Certain aspects of Zoroastrianism (Which I'm assuming is the religion you are refferring to, and if it isn't, you are wrong) were absorbed into Islamic law naturally, and peacefully. This is a religion (Islam), which was cemented into the culture of that region over 14 centuries ago.

that's not what he was refering to mate.

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Originally posted by Lepanto that's not what he was refering to mate.

Explain.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Explain.

i believe he's talking about the revolution and not islam as a religion but the fact that the country became a theocratic state that's more associated with arabs then their own people.

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Originally posted by Lepanto i believe he's talking about the revolution and not islam as a religion but the fact that the country became a theocratic state that's more associated with arabs then their own people.

I think we should let him speak for himself.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers I think we should let him speak for himself.

well you asked me to explain

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Originally posted by Lepanto i believe he's talking about the revolution and not islam as a religion but the fact that the country became a theocratic state that's more associated with arabs then their own people.

Quite true on the level of what i was trying to say.

But not just prior to the revolution taking place, i'm talking more of what the original Persians believed as opposed to what was forced onto them.

Before the revolution, Islam was present but that was because there were still people who still thought Islam was a integral part of the Persian history, thus Pahlavi allowed people to believe in it and go pray and such but told them not to meddle with Persian affairs. Now Islam has taken control of Persian affairs and thats where my biggest drawback of having Islam in Iran is coming from.

In Iran, like before, Islam is forced onto you. I dare any Iranian to go to Iran and say i don't like Islam anymore, i want to be Christian or something like that. You will see what these people do to you.

The latest news event of the government having Iranian people wear badge colors has even made people who still believe in the traditional religion of Iran of Zoroastrianism to wear blue badges i believe. If you read about the religious differences between Islam and Zoroastrianism and you will see quite a difference.

I couldn't care less if Islam existed, but to exist in a country that never believed in it until it was forced upon them is beyond me.

Having a arab religion, to run a non-arab country is wrong on all accounts.


When i say that the old religious beliefs of Persia are different and better, a good indication is to look at the Cyrus Cylinder, read it below



Now thats what Iran believed in before Islam was forced upon them.

When the recent earthquake hit the ancient city of Bam killing thousands of people, children who were left homeless with no parents were sold as slaves. Islam is truly going the opposite direction of what Persia truly believed in.

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@ Lemonad - I know a lot of persians of Iranian decent and they feel the same way that you do, its a shame that hardcoretrancer is such a child and feels that his views are the views of all people of that decent. Both him and cyrus are just trolls that post ignorant tripe Its a change to see someone with sense and good judgement to post on matters that they know. Funny though that hardcore and Cyrus will still scream at the top of thier lungs that the West is so bad, but yet, they live and thier daily life is protected by the west.

Kind of like ............ silly isn't it

They know so much but yet reap the benifits of living a posh life in the very world they see so evil and wrong.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer you need to stfu with that and look at the bigger picture here.you see unlike people like you I repsect the people of Iran and their decisions.who the fuck are to say whats good or bad for Iran?

Then why the hell should any one here listen to you then Bright Boy??
What the hell do you know?? Your family was exiled?? Or your family could not take the change?? So now you live in Canada, protected from the same people your family fled, obviously or you would not be in the West, you would be in Iran, so how the hell can you, of all people, not understand what Lemonad is saying? Instead you tell him to STFU and attack him. Is it because you know deep down inside he is right? Interesting....

My man Lazy is one pissed off dude who quit smoking, DO NOT FUCK WITH HIM.

lol

dude since when does anyone take softcore serious, com'n now!

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