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Originally posted by nchs09 i dont see the similarities between the gay activist groups and the topic in hand.

then either you didn't really read or understand my post...or disagree with it.

why can't a parallel be drawn between two groups that have historically been, and continue to be (in certain contexts) marginalized by the status quo?

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Originally posted by nchs09 im not saying gender roles.. im saying things u are naturally good @. well i guess there is a fine line but maybe what u are enclined on learning?..ya i guess that is also walking the thin line... there is some reasearch.. i think i sold my books cause i passed the class.

Anything beyond physical strengh is pretty much gender roles.

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Originally posted by igottaknow your short hair and you want to get your tubes tied

LOL.. shutup

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Originally posted by MarkT then either you didn't really read or understand my post...or disagree with it. why can't a parallel be drawn between two groups that have historically been, and continue to be (in certain contexts) marginalized by the status quo?

because one was thought to be infirior from men, women... while the gays problems are mostly related to religion

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

Nachos, I am a little unsure as to how you qualify your statement that men and women cannot be equal.
Please explain.

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Originally posted by nchs09 because one was thought to be infirior from men, women... while the gays problems are mostly related to religion

Inequality between the sexes can also be attributed to religion.

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Originally posted by Aquarian Inequality between the sexes can also be attributed to religion.

but in most cases it isnt... and what i was talking about was based on sience/studies/obersvation.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

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Originally posted by nchs09 because one was thought to be infirior from men, women... while the gays problems are mostly related to religion

the reason for their marginalization is irrelevant though...

I'm stating that the activism #s have dwindled because both have gained a certain level of "acceptanace" and protection under the law (i.e. in Canada, gender is specifically protected under the Charter, while sexual orientation has been largely granted the same Charter protection via extension of the same clause by various levels of courts).

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Originally posted by Theresa Nachos, I am a little unsure as to how you qualify your statement that men and women cannot be equal. Please explain.

because biologically we are different. so it is daft to say differences in attributes are non-existent.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

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Originally posted by MarkT the reason for their marginalization is irrelevant though... I'm stating that the activism #s have dwindled because both have gained a certain level of "acceptanace" and protection under the law (i.e. in Canada, gender is specifically protected under the Charter, while sexual orientation has been largely granted the same Charter protection via extension of the same clause by various levels of courts).

ok u lost me now

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

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Originally posted by nchs09 because one was thought to be infirior from men, women... while the gays problems are mostly related to religion

In both cases though, the groups were oppressed because of their label. A lot of the reasoning behind female oppression was justified by the catholic church.

It does make sense to a degree, but I am not entirely sure I agree that it is similar enough to compare.

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Originally posted by Theresa Nachos, I am a little unsure as to how you qualify your statement that men and women cannot be equal. Please explain.

actually what he said (or as I understand it) was that that they are not the saem, therefore are not equal. Where men are better at some things, women are better at others. So while they may average out to be similar, they are not equal, where equal means the exact same.

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