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Originally posted by MrSquirrel Eugenics is such a fun topic..... MrS

Is that like ebonics for Europeans?

Hm....what about this little bugger?



http://www.local6.com/news/9290536/detail.html

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Baby Born With Third Arm POSTED: 8:19 am EDT May 30, 2006 UPDATED: 8:24 am EDT May 30, 2006 SHANGHAI, China -- Doctors in Shanghai on Tuesday were considering surgery options for a 2-month-old boy born with an unusually well-formed third arm. Neither of the boy's two left arms is fully functional and tests have so far been unable to determine which was more developed, said Dr. Chen Bochang, head of the orthopedics department at Shanghai Children's Medical Center. "His case is quite peculiar. We have no record of any child with such a complete third arm," Chen said in a telephone interview. The boy, identified only as "Jie-jie," also was born with just one kidney and may have problems that could lead to curvature of the spine, local media reports said. Jie-jie cried when either of his left arms was touched, but smiled and responded normally to other stimuli, the reports said. Chen said doctors hoped to work out a plan for surgery, but the boy's small size made it impossible to perform certain tests that would help them prepare. Media reports said other children have been reported born with additional arms and legs, but in those cases it was clear what limb was more developed. Chen's hospital is one of China's most experienced in dealing with unusual birth defects, including separating conjoined twins.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Hm....what about this little bugger? http://www.local6.com/news/9290536/detail.html

Hmm..he might make a hell of a boxer!

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Originally posted by Psy-T i believe arbiter was referring to the behaviour of the parents who would like to abort due to (curable) cosmetic defects as genes

Ah..makes more sense then

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so, considering this belief of yours... where do you place the line between what's 'right' and 'wrong' ethically?

I'd say that as long as a child has a defect that's going to cause it to be incapable of functionally taking care of itself or a defect that would result in a premature death it would be better to abort. Otherwise, I'm pretty much against it. Stuff like down syndrome, missing limbs, blindness, etc.

Although, on the other hand, Arbiter did make a relatively good point. Aborting people who carry genes of such stupid people might not be such a bad idea after all.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I'd say that as long as a child has a defect that's going to cause it to be incapable of functionally taking care of itself or a defect that would result in a premature death it would be better to abort. Otherwise, I'm pretty much against it. Stuff like down syndrome, missing limbs, blindness, etc.

What about things like muscular dystrophy, which causes death around age 20. By the time you reach your teens, you're in a wheelchair-but you would have a nice, fulfilling childhood! I don't think there's a pre-natal test for it, so it's hypothetical, but one may be someday developed.

In any case, I'm not looking for an answer necessarily to the muscular dystrophy thing, I'm just pointing out that there are many, many flavors of birth defects, ranging from some of which may never be noticed (one guy had a dead siamese twin corpse in his body for 30-odd years) to those that will cause death in the childbirth process.

I'm just saying that your line is none too distinct, and lines like that are too arbitrary for my tastes anyway.

As for myself, I beleive in a woman's right to abortion, regardless of whatever reason. I beleive that she can CHOOSE to have an abortion for whatever reason she wants, whether it be because the child will have a birth defect, or the "wrong" color eyes, or because a stranger gave her 5 bucks to do it. It's none of my buisness, and certainly none of the government's.

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Originally posted by MehGoat As for myself, I beleive in a woman's right to abortion, regardless of whatever reason. ... It's none of my buisness, and certainly none of the government's.

Well that's the whole freakin arguement right there: Is abortion a serious thing requiring justification or is it relatively frivolous, along the lines of getting a wart frozen off or getting your stomach stapled?

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Hm....what about this little bugger? http://www.local6.com/news/9290536/detail.html

Probably (and by that I mean almost definetly) a result of all the pesticides, hormones, genetic modification, toxins from polluting the enviornment, and other unnatural crap.

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by MehGoat As for myself, I beleive in a woman's right to abortion, regardless of whatever reason. I beleive that she can CHOOSE to have an abortion for whatever reason she wants, whether it be because the child will have a birth defect, or the "wrong" color eyes, or because a stranger gave her 5 bucks to do it. It's none of my buisness, and certainly none of the government's.

Once women can ejaculate in other women and impregnate them, then perhaps it's purely a "womans'" right to deicide. Until that day, the feminatzis can kindly fuck off.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Once women can ejaculate in other women and impregnate them, then perhaps it's purely a \"womans'\" right to deicide. Until that day, the feminatzis can kindly fuck off.

thats a ridiculous statement. how can you compare ejaculation with carrying the child? theres a reason its a woman's right to decide- its her body.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN thats a ridiculous statement. how can you compare ejaculation with carrying the child? theres a reason its a woman's right to decide- its her body.

He's coming from the point of view that its half the father's baby

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Originally posted by Sunflower He's coming from the point of view that its half the father's baby

yes, i know what he's saying. ergo my comment. to argue a man has equal rights with respect to the child is ridiculous.

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