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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN wtf!? who doesnt like sleeping??

Well yes, but it is only the effects of sleeping you want right (ie it's awesome to get to bed when you are really really tired)? But if you didn't get tired there is no need to sleep either, is it?

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Well yes, but it is only the effects of sleeping you want right (ie it's awesome to get to bed when you are really really tired)? But if you didn't get tired there is no need to sleep either, is it?

Trust me Andrew a few nights of insomnia and walking around like a meth addict and you see how much you miss sleep. I saw a documentary on how news correspondents when they travel and end up in differing time zones, it tosses their body clocks into absolute chaos because of the pressures of getting the stories via deadlines and lack of any sleep for more than say an hour at most. The amount of caffeine they consume is ridiculous.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby modafinil is your friend all the positive effects of amphetamines, without the sick side effects. in the future, say 10-20 years, i foresee a large portion of the working population staying up for 2-3 days at a time. seriously, we don't need sleep. the longest i've stayed up has been 176 hours... hehe.

I've been taking provigil for the last several months. Working night shift, going to school full time, and racing my bike leaves little time for sleep.

I'd say my results have been mixed. I do tend to "crash" every once in a while.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I've been taking provigil for the last several months. Working night shift, going to school full time, and racing my bike leaves little time for sleep. I'd say my results have been mixed. I do tend to "crash" every once in a while.

That doesn't sound like it's very good for your health, and, aren't you a doctor? (I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to medicine btw, so please correct me).

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z That doesn't sound like it's very good for your health, and, aren't you a doctor? (I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to medicine btw, so please correct me).

I have a few more years before I'm a full-fleged "M.D." so I can be as unhealthy as I want.

Actually, that's not the whole story as to why I take Provigil. I can't remember if I posted it or not, but this time last year I was in a serious cycling crash. I spent some time in the hospital and it took me several more months to fully recover. Ever since then my sleep patterns have been messed up to put it lightly. I guess you could say I'm borderline narcoleptic (please note the difference between narcolepsy and cataplexy before making any jokes). That's why I take the medication. Some days it helps greatly to overcome the "sleeping urges" I have, other days it's as if I took a sugar pill. However, it has returned me on most days to my previous "normal" sleeping cycle which averaged about three to four hours of sleep a night. I think I even posted about that sometime a long time ago.

If you're staying up for days at a time based on the actions of a medication, I would say that it is unhealthy. However, if it restores normal sleeping function, I don't see an issue. I do question the saftey of a drug that allows you to remain awake for as long as the article states, but hey, I'm not a doctor!

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Originally posted by Psy-T i do not consume caffeine btw, and alcohol does not function on me as a sedative.

They both work on me opposite of how they should. Coffe makes me sleepy and alcohol makes me need less sleep.

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Oh man...if only I could get rid of sleep...

I enjoy dreaming too much... I would never take such a pill.

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Here's a question I like to think about:

If we measured our lives, instead of in years, but rather in waking-hours, would you like to have all of them compressed into one long 40-50 year continuous period of wakefulness, at the end of which you drop dead, or split it up as we have it now?

If you spread your waking-hours-lifetime over as many years as possible, you get to see more of the future; on the other hand, if you can stay up 24 hours a day for your (shortened) life, you could get so much more done relative to everyone else... finish college in a couple years while keeping a job, etc.

You know, I've tried polyphasic sleeping, where you try to limit yourself to 2 hours of sleep a day by taking a 20-minute nap every 4 hours, but it's really hard. B-2 pilots do it on really long missions, as do some round-the-world sailors who need to be awake for long stretches of time with only minimal time set aside for sleep, but it's pretty impractical for someone who's still in school...

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Originally posted by MehGoat Here's a question I like to think about : If we measured our lives, instead of in years, but rather in waking-hours, would you like to have all of them compressed into one long 40-50 year continuous period of wakefulness, at the end of which you drop dead, or split it up as we have it now? If you spread your waking-hours-lifetime over as many years as possible, you get to see more of the future; on the other hand, if you can stay up 24 hours a day for your (shortened) life, you could get so much more done relative to everyone else... finish college in a couple years while keeping a job, etc. You know, I've tried polyphasic sleeping, where you try to limit yourself to 2 hours of sleep a day by taking a 20-minute nap every 4 hours, but it's really hard. B-2 pilots do it on really long missions, as do some round-the-world sailors who need to be awake for long stretches of time with only minimal time set aside for sleep, but it's pretty impractical for someone who's still in school...

Question for you: How could you be so sure that should one stay awake for more hours totally in their life, that they will definitely die that much earlier? Maybe they will not live as long as if they slept a more natural number of hours, but what if they live only 3 or 4 years less by staying awake as much as possible (read: around 22--23 hours a day or longer) compared to sleeping a normal 6--9-hour sleeping period? the difference in awake hours is still in their favour even if they pass away a year or two earlier (everything else equal)...

PS: Also, some people just don't need much sleep to get through a day comfortably. I can easily make it through a regular school/workday on 6--7 hours of sleep, as long as I sleep regularly and not screw my schedule up. I don't need over 8 hours of sleep usually. Others may not be able to get by at all on 6--7 and need more like 9--10.