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Originally posted by MarkT Nusty could comment on something local, I'm sure...but since you're a high roller, why not head out to London: http://www.teamtompkins.com/Main.php

In Toronto, one club I've noticed a lot of that seems to have a good reputation is Rebellion BJJ. thier website is http://www.rebellionjj.com/Brazilia...tsuToronto.html and it has everything you really need to know about the guys. The two main guys have their belts from a 7th dan, which in BJJ pretty much requires your whole life to get to and will be one of the top 15 instructors in North America... so these guys were tought by the best. (some guys open clubs with a blue belt in BJJ!, so the Black belts are really prided.)
The other nice thing about thier club is that they also have mauy thai guys in there so you get a bit of the total stand up/ground game deal.

another one to look into is Toronto BJJ. I don't really know much about them but they claim to have a 3rd degree black belt instructor... amazing for canada. I haven't really seen too many of thier guys around at tournaments in ontario but that doesn't mean they aren't trainning at a high level. I would recomend checking them out.

The other Two I would recomend looking into is the Schilling/Behring BJJ Team I really don't know where in Toronto they train but they win everything! (well at least always put guys in the top three in all divisions (all wieght and abiltiy divisions!). And the BTT (Brazilian Top Team) team. both are in toronto and both do great in tournaments.

edit: just found out that the Schilling/Behring BJJ Team train with Shah Franco. Still no word on the BTT but you have three very good leads now.
Rebellion Jiu-Jitsu
510 Gordon Baker Rd.
Toronto, ON
416-677-2722
www.rebellionjj.com

Toronto BJJ
133 Turbine Drive,
Toronto Ontario
M9L 2S7
416-744-6868
wwww.wagnneyfabiano.com

Shah Franco Martial Arts
3385 Yonge Street,
Toronto, ON
(416)-256-9952
www.shahfranco.net


This is a listing of all of the other schools in GTA that claim to have BJJ:


Costa Academy of Mixed Martial Arts
1309B Dundas Street West
Toronto, Ontario
M6J 1X8
416-823-0614
[email protected]

White Tiger Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
3 Riverview Gardens
Toronto Ontario
M6S 4E4
416 999-2900
www.bjj.ca

Kombat Arts Training Academy
1110 Kamato Road, unit #4
Mississauga, ON
L4W 2P3
www.KombatArts.com

Bravado Jiu-Jitsu Academy/Team RGDA Woodbridge
65 Woodstream Blvd #12
Woodbridge, Ontario
905-265-0950
www.Bravadojj.com

House of Muaythai-Siam No.1
2772 Dufferin Street
Toronto ON
M6B 3R7
416-781-3775
http://www.houseofmuaythai.com/

Point Blank Martial Arts and Fitness
13085 Yonge Street, Unit 1B
Richmond Hill, ON
L4E 3S8
(905) 773-9300
http://www.pointblank.ca

Ultimate Martial Arts Inc.
680 Progress Ave.
Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
M1H 3A5
Tel: 416-289-9997
Cell: 416-858-8479
www.ultimatemartialarts.ca

Turning Point Training Methods
Greenwood & Mortimer Ave
Toronto ON
M4J 4J4
Tel: 416 406-6665
Fax: 416 461-1413
www.TurningPointTrainingMethods.com

Total Defense Inc.
P.O. Box 145 Station C
Toronto, Ontario
M6J 3M9
905.953.7097
www.totaldefenseinc.com

Sphere of Influence
537 Marlee Avenue
Toronto
M6B 3J3
647-889-4003
www.sphereofinfluence.ca

United Martial Arts Canada
1680 Midland Avenue, # 5
Scarborough ON
M1P 3C6
416 755 3300
www.unitedmartialarts.ca




I think Ambercombie said he was training at Carlos Newtons place in a bit of BJJ, Judo and Mauy Thai. so he could give you some feedback on that place.

I'm not really that up to date with Mauy Thai in the GTA since I've never fought any of those guys but don't be affraid to train at two different places. I train my stand up at one place and my ground game at another. I regularly have 3 dojos I rotate between so that I get to train with new/different guys more often. with the same guys all the time trainning can be good because they know you but it can also get stale as you get used to them if they don't 'spice' it up enough.

Hope that helps a bit.

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Originally posted by Lightshow i wear sunglasses for the same reason everybody wears them in a club. 1: people look cool in sunglasses 2: it gets awefully bright as the night progresses

*nusty does not wear sunglasses at night, they make it hard to see and you could trip

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Wow, nice post. I really don't know what i wanna take though. I want something that's HIGHLY APPLICABLE in real life. I dunno about BJJ... you're screwed if there's more than one opponent. That and wrestling with sweaty guys for hours on end just... yea. Not overly appealing. Perhaps Muay Thai? I watched a couple of videos and it looks cool, though i kinda miss the strategic, calculated movements of BJJ. Shit.. one overdoes it and the other doesn't do it at all. Is there a compromise?

True strategy of Muay Thai is hid in it's origin, in Thailand. Go there danja Son if want to find truth & spirit in your life. No theres no compromise but lack of concentration. Mauy Thai is aggressive though, if that's what your looking for

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Originally posted by bluE_Neon True strategy of Muay Thai is hid in it's origin, in Thailand. Go there danja Son if want to find truth & spirit in your life. No theres no compromise but lack of concentration. Mauy Thai is aggressive though, if that's what your looking for

This is strangely tempting...

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Originally posted by d!abolic Wow, nice post. I really don't know what i wanna take though. I want something that's HIGHLY APPLICABLE in real life. I dunno about BJJ... you're screwed if there's more than one opponent. That and wrestling with sweaty guys for hours on end just... yea. Not overly appealing. Perhaps Muay Thai? I watched a couple of videos and it looks cool, though i kinda miss the strategic, calculated movements of BJJ. Shit.. one overdoes it and the other doesn't do it at all. Is there a compromise?

a compromise? ...yes, do both.

I have adapted my BJJ into a standup style mixed with Vale Tudo and Japanese Jiu-Jitsu to use opponents as shields when facing more than one attacker (my favorite easy technique is a standing rear naked choke). you obviously already understand that you need both standup and grappling in this day and age, one without the other simply won't cut it on the street or in a tournament. At the very least I would say take 3-5 months of BJJ to get the basics and understand what is going to happen to you if you get taken down. then go back to your stand up. Personally, if I didn't have 13.5 years of two styles of karate then I would have switched to Mauy Thai in a heart beat... its one of the greatest striking systems out there. but you can't use it if you end up on the ground. There is a reason I train in a bunch of styles but I focus on BJJ for my ground game and Chito-Ryu and Shotokan Karate for my striking.
The other logic when it comes to multiple attackers and using BJJ is that what happens if one guy takes you down while the others are kicking in your ribs? with BJJ you would be able to handle the guy holding you down, break in him mulitple peices and then get back up to face the rest of them. with out it you could get stuck on the ground until you are black and blue.

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Originally posted by Lightshow i wear sunglasses for the same reason everybody wears them in a club. 1: people look cool in sunglasses 2: it gets awefully bright as the night progresses

*nusty does not wear sunglasses at night, they make it hard to see and you could trip

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That's badass.. do you suggest i start out with MT or BJJ?

cant go wrong with anything that starts with "BJ"

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Originally posted by d!abolic That's badass.. do you suggest i start out with MT or BJJ?

That's a question of personal prefference. personally I feel the stand up striking aspect of fighting takes most people longer to develop efficency in. A few months of BJJ and you will have a far better than average grappling ability. With Stand up striking arts there are lots of people out there that are very good so to get caught up to them it tends to take longer to get into the top half.
*I know there are lots of good grapplers but my point is that most people do not know ANY submissions, learning even a little bit puts you in a much better than average category, lots of people who are strong know how to throw a decent punch*

I would personally start with a few months of BJJ and then move to the Mauy Thai. Once you understand the importance of it then you can apprieciate the stand up even more. when I started taking BJJ about 6 years ago I learned how to defend my self better against take downs in other tournaments... it pays off having the logic of both styles, you can know what they are thinking because you have been there and know that styles strengths and weaknesses and how to exploit them. Get underhooks in on any BJJ guy and watch them squirm, get your hands behind a mauy thai guy and he will focus his attention on a potential knee to the face, then you switch it up and hit them with something else they never saw coming.

I would also recomend going back and doing a month BJJ at least every 5 months. Anything less than 2 months a year and you are going to loose too much of what you gained previously. I take breaks to switch styles to keep my trainning interesting and to keep myself current with my technique. It's always hard coming back to train after a break but always well worth it.

My other advice for both mauy thai and BJJ.... more so than other martial arts.... leave the ego at the door before you walk in. Go in admitting you know next to nothing and keep your eyes open. Even now when I go to a new club to train I assume I'm a beginner in thier classes until I can prove to them otherwise.

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Originally posted by Lightshow i wear sunglasses for the same reason everybody wears them in a club. 1: people look cool in sunglasses 2: it gets awefully bright as the night progresses

*nusty does not wear sunglasses at night, they make it hard to see and you could trip

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Originally posted by Engine9 are you new to teh internet? google it ffs

Because googling it wouldn't act as an advertisement/testiment as to what a tough guy he is. A google search wouldn't signal to us that he's the next chuck norris. In short.... doing a google search doesn't make us think he's got a big penis.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

If your ever in Hamilton check out Joslins Martial Arts Center. They don't have specialized MT, but they always have great Mt guys wrestlers ect come into train. The Head instuctor is awesome Jeff Joslin, hes a brown Belt in BJJ, hes on the road to the UFC hes the Panam BJJ Champ. They have lots of MMA classes if your looking down that road.

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Originally posted by nusty another one to look into is Toronto BJJ. I don't really know much about them but they claim to have a 3rd degree black belt instructor... amazing for canada. I haven't really seen too many of thier guys around at tournaments in ontario but that doesn't mean they aren't trainning at a high level. I would recomend checking them out.

This is true. Wagnee is a 3rd degree in BJJ. My buddy brought him in a couple years ago from Brazil when their gym was in Woodbridge. They moved shop to Downtown TO early last fall. Gym looks really nice and seems to be doing pretty well. I've also heard that they've had Gearges St. Pierre in for some clincs.