And in regards to the conspiracy stuff, yes it could be true, but there are more suspicious things that have happened in the USA's short history, JFK for instance. If it was a conspiracy to fly planes into the world trade center and the pentagon, thats one thing. The fact that there are extremists now who actually do believe what Osama Bin Laden is "preaching" (Whether he is involved in the conspiracy or not) is the threat we should be more worried about, well worried is probably not the best word but... "Concerned". The idealists are always more dangerous than the so-called ring leaders, anyone at the head of anything is a puppet.

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak if the american gov didnt start wars on false pretenses(i didnt know OIL was a weapon of mass destruction)this problem would not exist.I think acts of terrorism are very wrong, but these people are fighting back the only way they can.If the biggest kid in the yard runs around beating everyone up, sonner or later he will get his ass kicked himself Want to stop terrorism? Simple, stop invading countries for nothing more then to pilfer natural resources.It isnt about arabs, its about humans.If the united states would have invaded an asian country,asians would most likely also use terrorist acts.What the american and canadian governments are doing, is almost equivalent to the treatment of italians and germans in North america during WW2.Its not as bad as this yet, but the media and gov are setting this up mark my words.In 10 years, North America will be so divided by fear and by race that everything will turn to shit.

i agree 100% on this man !!!
And for sure north america is turning to shit more and more as the time goes by. All they do is divide people by religion/color/race/style/mentality ... forgetting we're all human beings.
Terrorism is an act of rebellion, not an act for free violence.
It's not in Muslims mentality to do terrorism as alot of people think. You need people like this , that actually do something about what's happening in the world(even if its not the right solution).
And the media are hiding the truth and making people live in ignorance thinking : OMG these terrorist are soo bad , they always plot these killings FOR NO FUCKN REASON except that BEING MUSLIM !!!

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Want to stop terrorism? Simple, stop invading countries for nothing more then to pilfer natural resources.It isnt about arabs, its about humans.

Al Qaeda originally targeted the US due to their support for Isreal. The attacks started before the US entered Iraq people... don't forget that...

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak Want to stop terrorism?

easiest way is to inform yourself. so many people are ignorant and simply don't want to know. *when* they inform themselves, they flip on the tv or read the (as in one type) of newspaper. helloooooooooo it's called media politics, everying is biased. informing yourself by absorbing what ONE source says, is the worst thing you can do. fuck CNN!!!

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Originally posted by Alex The idealists are always more dangerous than the so-called ring leaders, anyone at the head of anything is a puppet.

ignorant americans ---> most dangerous idealists.

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Originally posted by Caela while we're on the topic of "terrorism" - have any of you guys seen the internet movie Loose Change? it's about 9/11 and the supposed conspiracy behind it (which i believe completely). It's very well documented without bias...afterall, you can't argue with facts and proof! and many, many of the facts that are presented cannot just be coincidence (ahem...all the insider trading that occurred pre-9/11 and antebellum)...if you're interested, search for it online, or i'll be happy to share it with you

I havent seen this video but I know there was some doubt as to whether a plane actually hit the pentagon or not. Just in case this video touches on this subject, the US government released security videos of the actual crash just a couple weeks ago. That should squash any conspiracy theories about that... I know I've seen a 30 minute video claiming the whole thing to be a conspiracy...

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Originally posted by Marcus007 Al Qaeda originally targeted the US due to their support for Isreal. The attacks started before the US entered Iraq people... don't forget that...

maybe you should think why the us supports israel...ie a friendly face near a land rich with oil

Time for Canada to remove all religious freedoms from all religions.

Deport immigrants who break any type of law, also applies to any immigrant within the 5 years of getting their canadian citizenship.

I know its extreme, but it must be done.

The world has to see Canada is not a safe haven for "terrorists" anymore.

It will bring more problems among Canadians and probably a 9/11 attack here in Canada.

Time for a safer Canada.

Some of you will dislike what I said.

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Originally posted by jesteraver Time for Canada to remove all religious freedoms from all religions. Deport immigrants who break any type of law, also applies to any immigrant within the 5 years of getting their canadian citizenship. I know its extreme, but it must be done. The world has to see Canada is not a safe haven for "terrorists" anymore. It will bring more problems among Canadians and probably a 9/11 attack here in Canada. Time for a safer Canada. Some of you will dislike what I said.

typical zionist

typical zionist how so?

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Originally posted by jesteraver typical zionist how so?

i dont know really, i just say this to my jewish buddies usually when i really want to piss them off.

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak i dont know really, i just say this to my jewish buddies usually when i really want to piss them off.

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Originally posted by aria_clubber i agree 100% on this man !!! And for sure north america is turning to shit more and more as the time goes by. All they do is divide people by religion/color/race/style/mentality ... forgetting we're all human beings. Terrorism is an act of rebellion, not an act for free violence. It's not in Muslims mentality to do terrorism as alot of people think. You need people like this , that actually do something about what's happening in the world(even if its not the right solution). And the media are hiding the truth and making people live in ignorance thinking : OMG these terrorist are soo bad , they always plot these killings FOR NO FUCKN REASON except that BEING MUSLIM !!!

Sorry dude, the Canadian media is not government controlled, and yes anyone who falls under the classification of terrorist, is bad. In my opinion, the word terrorist is idiodic, I believe they should be called murderers if they've killed people. There's ways to stop terrorism, and yes all-nite I agree that if the USA changed its power/energy hungry foreign policy we would see big changes, but the USA cannot change stuff it's done in the past, and the USA's history alone is enough to fuel certain extremist groups.

All that being said, if you justify what THESE people do and not what the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT does, you're a hypocrit, Haki you included. Killing innocent Americans/Canadians/British/ blah blah blah is as unjustified as the United States government invading a country for oil. I dont think any of you understand how the American government works, once elected, you cant un-elect them, which is seemingly the only solution to punish them for their heinous acts in the middle east. YOU CANT GET RID OF THE GOVERNMENT FOR ANOTHER 2 YEARS, that's how the system works, unless you want a revolution or something.

Being sympathetic towards murderous extremists is just as stupid as being ignorant towards them in my opinion, and call me a blind patriot, but if you guys think North America is going to shit so quickly, buy a plane ticket and go to wherever you want. Millions of people from all over the world would not be coming here to live out the rest of their lives, provide a better life for their children and their children after them if North America was such a bad place, or was going to become such a "horrible place divided by people scared shitless of everything and evil terrorists oooooooooooo, and ignorant rednecks blah blah".

Canada I believe year after year is said to be one of the best places to live, with one of the highest qualities of life globally when compared to hundreds of other countries, if you wanna complain about it, that's your right, but name me 20 countries outside the G8 where you are allowed to critisize the government openly, practice religion freely (even with the so called epidemic of racial profiling you guys are making it out to be), elect governments, a working judicial system, a functioning (booming) economy, political stability, no anti-government rebel groups, free of actual medical epidemics, dont need to recieve millions of dollars in aid to even go from day to day, have a proper education system, health care services, wel-fare systems for unfourtunates, a poverty rate of 13%, clean drinking water, plenty of food, and plenty of natural resources?

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