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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Absolutely. I'd go so far as to say that trance is the 21st century equivalent of classical. If those crazy guys back then had midi, who knows what kind of crazy shit they would come up with!

i always kinda considered trance to be the psychedelic music of the 90's.. in the same way that classic rock was in the 60's. i could be wrong.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J No, but I was just clarifying that there are some.

Good for you.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Absolutely. I'd go so far as to say that trance is the 21st century equivalent of classical. If those crazy guys back then had midi, who knows what kind of crazy shit they would come up with!

Oh please. Just because some artist use strings in their breakdowns doesn't mean the two genres have anything in common. There's just too many differences in the structures alone. Besides, most trance tunes are made just to make people dance which was hardly the intention of classical.

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Originally posted by Nou Nik I hate you

Who are you kidding?

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ok most maybe hard to quantify.

from Armin to BT to Sasha to James Holden.

many artists worthy of mention maybe more the case.

to me the link is obvious.

that is all.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Oh please. Just because some artist use strings in their breakdowns doesn't mean the two genres have anything in common. There's just too many differences in the structures alone. Besides, most trance tunes are made just to make people dance which was hardly the intention of classical.

Why would we do the same thing that's been done, hundreds of years before?

Forward thinking, technology, and progress, my boy! progress!

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Why would we do the same thing that's been done, hundreds of years before? Forward thinking, technology, and progress, my boy! progress!

"My boy", if you actually read what I said you'll notice I didn't say anything about progression.

Simply put - you cannot compare trance with classical since they don't really have anything in common.

...or do I still need to dumb it down for you?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery "My boy", if you actually read what I said you'll notice I didn't say anything about progression. Simply put - you cannot compare trance with classical since they don't really have anything in common. ...or do I still need to dumb it down for you?

Wow, what a wretched disposition you have! Mercy please, spare me your MrMysteryDegrading sense of sudden and baseless defensiveness!

Obviously you should read my original post, in which I said that trance is the 21st century equivalent of classical.

Or do I need to dumb it down for you and draw comparisons, such as emphasis on melody, or the fact that trance is mostly for dancing to, and classical was mostly a theatrical outing, the length of both art forms, or the nature of both trance and classical having all elements composed mostly by a single person?

Be careful in the future about being a nasty shit when you don't even know what you're trying to start an argument about!

I think there is a connection.

Maybe not a strong one, but I struggle to think of any other genres (other than ambient) that share the same focus on melody, specifically aimed at creating an emotion. Trance is very good at this because it has power behind it too, ambient very, very rarely has.

In any case, I certainly started to appreciate classical music a hell of a lot more after getting into trance, the reason being I can relate to it far better now. Listening to the various intricacies, the structure and emphasis on harmony as well as observing the various emotions it evokes.

That’s why for me at least, I can see a connection.

Of course it’s not airtight, but then it’s pretty obvious it wasn’t going to be.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Wow, what a wretched disposition you have! Mercy please, spare me your MrMysteryDegrading sense of sudden and baseless defensiveness! Obviously you should read my original post, in which I said that trance is the 21st century equivalent of classical. Or do I need to dumb it down for you and draw comparisons, such as emphasis on melody, or the fact that trance is mostly for dancing to, and classical was mostly a theatrical outing, the length of both art forms, or the nature of both trance and classical having all elements composed mostly by a single person? Be careful in the future about being a nasty shit when you don't even know what you're trying to start an argument about!

This debate has been made before. Trance and Classical have nothing in common, and they are not equivalent in anyway. Period. You're an ignorant waste of a human being if you think otherwise.

Another thing is that "classical" is such an immensely broad term for music that spans hundreds of years and many instruments, styles and structures. Seeing as classical is the most widely reaching and versatile music, and is composed by people who set down many of the rules and conventions you expect in music, there will be influences to be found in any genre.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Another thing is that "classical" is such an immensely broad term for music that spans hundreds of years and many instruments, styles and structures. Seeing as classical is the most widely reaching and versatile music, and is composed by people who set down many of the rules and conventions you expect in music, there will be influences to be found in any genre.

I have to agree there.

Plus, for every so-called similarity people find, there are hundreds of differences. That's not my definition of 'similar'.

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