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Originally posted by MarkT I'm not sure how many unsuspecting 14 and 15 yr olds are being preyed upon by complete strangers here...and isn't this an issue for PARENTS to solve? How the fuck is your 14 and 15 yr. old getting out there to sleep with some older person anyway?

It's a lot easier than you think! There are opportunities for young girls to meet older men all the time! For example, a lot of kids go to Wonderland, but then again so do a lot of older people. All it takes is a young girl going out there with her friends - because god knows parents aren't going to keep them locked in all the time, and either ways, it's only Wonderland, right? - and there you have it. Young girl meets older guy, they hook up, the girl gets her girlfriends to cover for her, saying she's going to sleepovers at their house and really spends the night with the older boyfriend with her parents being non the wiser.

Believe me, parents are not necessarily to blame. Unless you lock up your kid 24/7, this type of thing will happen.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Hmmm, is there any evidence to support that a 14 year old is not capable of making decisions regarding sex but a 16 year old is? Regardless of how you justify your position you are still being inconsistant. If social engineering is bad then why is it okay so long as it's only children that we seek to control. I know, you'll say because children are incapable of making a wise decision in matters such as sex/drinking/smoking.... right? Can the same not be said about adults who are addicted to nicotine when it comes to smoking? Or alcoholics when it comes to hours of operation for taverns? Clearly none of the groups identified above can make a wise decision regarding these things. So, why is it okay for the nanny state to exist for children but not for adults who may be equally incapable of making informed and wise decisions?

Children are considered children for a reason. If you cannot see the difference between a child making an adult decision and an adult making an adult decision i kind of feel sorry for you.

By 18 you should know better and if you dont, then its your problem. As a child you are still developing mentally and physically.

The problem i have is when the government legislates these decisions for adults.

Now the other half of the equation should be dealt with. If girls arent to be touched by adults in a sexual way until 16, they should not be walking around looking like hookers until that age. But that is a parental duty. The sex thing isnt for the reasons loca stated.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Dude. Tell me your secret. where do you get these hilarious images?

It's not always the picture itself, it's the delivery. Some I reuse, some I make myself. I do quick jobs with PaintShop Pro v 3.12-32.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie It's not always the picture itself, it's the delivery. Some I reuse, some I make myself. I do quick jobs with PaintShop Pro v 3.12-32.

Regardless, you're a master.

I once dated a 31yr old mom of a 17 year old hottie when I was just 19.

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Originally posted by MarkT now, do *I* think that a 15 yr old should be sleeping with a 30 yr. old? hell no. but do I think the gov't has any business legislating around that MORAL feeling of mine? hell no. . . . . I'm not sure how many unsuspecting 14 and 15 yr olds are being preyed upon by complete strangers here...and isn't this an issue for PARENTS to solve? How the fuck is your 14 and 15 yr. old getting out there to sleep with some older person anyway?

^^ EXAXCTLY!!!!

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yeah but are you guys 15? No!

So you are right...the government has no business in your business.

its fucked up how the same people who advocate the government taking away many adult rights, also think that the government should let kids have the right to make adult choices.

Its really messed up in my opinion

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Abercrombie I once dated a 31yr old mom of a 17 year old hottie when I was just 19.

How hot was the daughter! Sweet, you should have hooked up with both! That'd be awesome.

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Originally posted by TO guy Regardless, you're a master.

*aw shucks*

This could happen to YOUR sons one day: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0519063nc1.html

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Children are considered children for a reason. If you cannot see the difference between a child making an adult decision and an adult making an adult decision i kind of feel sorry for you. By 18 you should know better and if you dont, then its your problem. As a child you are still developing mentally and physically. The problem i have is when the government legislates these decisions for adults.

So, children need to be cared for because they are mentally deficient compared to adults... okay I gottcha..... but what about adults that are mentally deficient compared to other adults. You still have not addressed my question with regard to addicts.... they are incapable of making a responsible decision due to their addiction... should we not care for them? If so, why not... because they're older then 18? Does that not seem a somewhat flimsy and arbitrary reason?

What I'm getting at is you cannot have it both ways. If you are going to legislate morality or socially engineer any one group then all groups must be fair game. I cannot believe you, Mr. Libertarian, of all people cannot see that.

(BTW, I don't support 14 year olds gettin' freaky)

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar How hot was the daughter! Sweet, you should have hooked up with both! That'd be awesome.

She was, and I had her permission to date her daughter after we broke up, but no luck together. At least I walked away from that one a bonafide MOFO.

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