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nytrox
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Location: Berlin

i find myself playing in minor almost all the time. it's a more introverted feeling to me and this is closer to the trancey state of mind.


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[Alpha]Dave
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Alltough I have studied music theory for 3 years I can't say I use it consiously because most of the times when I write my melodies I just hear them in my head and I just map it out on the keyboard, the same thing goes for all the sub-melodies around the lead so I don't really bother to use all those theory-stuff, allthough they are probably used unconsiouly.

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PutBoy
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def Minor.


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Synchronicity
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Yeah I always use minor coz then I seem dead mysterious. Bein' happy is for pussys.

And the best thing is, if I write repetitive non-sensical crap I can just say 'its moody'

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PutBoy
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quote:
Originally posted by Synchronicity
Yeah I always use minor coz then I seem dead mysterious. Bein' happy is for pussys.

And the best thing is, if I write repetitive non-sensical crap I can just say 'its moody'


Slow repetative sounds moody to most people.


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tecnolover
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: somewhere in, USA

quote:
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Yeah I always use minor coz then I seem dead mysterious. Bein' happy is for pussys.


Yeh,agreed. It's not cool to be happy. I think Depressed Mode kinda got me into the minor mood thing back in the 80's/90's. Very cool. But I do have my happy moments. My "oceanside drive" track is a happy euphoric type track. I guess driving down the coast is happy and deserved the 'cheese' spread. It's ok to be happy inside as long as you look depressed on the outside right?

If there is a cool major scale I would have to say in my opinion it's the spanish gypsy scale. Anyone who knows the harmonic minor scale is familiar with this as it is a relative major scale. love it a lot. Even though its major having the natural 3rd, the flatted 2nd interval takes a lot of the cheese out of it imo.

Actually, im gonna start playing more with harmonic minor scales in my trance tracks. I really love that scale alot. Has the middle eastern sound to it because of the natural 7th. But I also don't want to sound too much like middle eastern dance music either,, hmmm......tough choices....


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PutBoy
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: LA (Landskrona)

quote:
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somehow i always start my tracks in C minor. realy strange.


A Minor for me. Easiest scale in the world (Punch the white keys 'til you drop) I usually change it later though.


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Aquarian
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Registered: May 2005
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I've never liked music composed in major. For some reason minor has always sounded better to me.

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Derivative
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin

No.

No chord or scale is a 'must.'

I have said it before on this forum but following chords and scales is missing the point. Anyone can play a scale. Its boring. I dont listen to music to listen to scales. I listen to music to hear how the producer conveys a sensation or a feeling. To try doing anything other than that is to miss the point completely and get hung up on a technicality.

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PutBoy
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Chords and Scales derrive from decades and millenias of trial-and-error of the most amazing musical geniuses of our species. They are there because they are what sounds good. You do not _have_ to follow this, but why reinvent the wheel? Of course we don't listen to music to listen to scales, but we don't look at cars to look at the wheels either. Yes, the wheels is a part of the veichle, but that is because it's what a car is built of.

In the same manner music is built on scales.

The only reason why scales and chords technically look the way they do, is because that is what sounds good, traditionally of course.

(To continue our symbolism let's say the wheel is round because it's the best way to spin it)

The amazing part, though, is that you can really clay it however you wish. The scales are not there to tell you how to write music, they're there to make it easier for you.

Just because you write scales and whatever doesn't mean you are so wired up in technicallity that in essence you are really constructing a veichle, rather than a piece of art. You can write the most beautiful music anyways, as have hundred of musicians done before you.

Really.

(I don't know where I'm getting at with this really. Bashing Derrivative I guess ;P)


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priceless


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TechnoNRGKid
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Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
No.

No chord or scale is a 'must.'

I have said it before on this forum but following chords and scales is missing the point. Anyone can play a scale. Its boring. I dont listen to music to listen to scales. I listen to music to hear how the producer conveys a sensation or a feeling. To try doing anything other than that is to miss the point completely and get hung up on a technicality.


I dont think any of us listens to music for predictable scales.
It's all bout creativity with using scales once you learn them.


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