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teknomonki
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Registered: Oct 2005
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As a Welshman I am concerned about the number of sheep in the video. Are their any guarantees that Bill and Jimmy didnt slip one in teh p00p3r of a poor bystanding animal?

Oh yeah, the vid. Didnt really convey any builds or significant changes in the track, from a media studying perspective it could have been done a lot better.

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SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Now this is a better example of a video which fits the overall theme of the music, in this case, pure trance music. Nice find.


Sigh. Papua New Guinea is not a trance record and The FSOL are not a trance act. Papua comes from the same school of breaks as Radio Babylon. Nothing trancey about it.

But damnit, let's not let Papua upstage every damn thing and let's not turn this into a video debate.


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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Sigh. Papua New Guinea is not a trance record and The FSOL are not a trance act. Papua comes from the same school of breaks as Radio Babylon. Nothing trancey about it.

But damnit, let's not let Papua upstage every damn thing and let's not turn this into a video debate.

I can make the same exact argument with Orbital. They are also not a trance act but if you were to take their track 'Halcyon' for example, any old schooler would tell you that is regarded as a trance classic by default even though it is breaks. I'm making the same assumption with FSOL. I agree it's truly breaks as you say, but calling it trance is not wrong either as that record does express some of those elements.

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BlueFear
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I still remember first time I listened to the KLF, when they hit the radio with 3am Eternal... That was the first sinlge by the KLF that way played on the radio where I live. What time is love came after even if older.


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Ivand
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Oh come on. I've seen a billion videos like that from the rave era, and even a track as good as Papua doesn't save it from being derivative crap. WTIL is total anti-video: no stupid cheap visuals trying to visualise E or anything daft like that. Just some sheep and a road. It's mesmirising. Plus I can't drive down a long road anymore without humming it, where as I can't remember any defining image from the Papua video and I've seen it sixteen thousand times.



Indeed, amazing video


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jlapointe
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To be honest I couldn't stop laughing through the whole thing. I mean, here's the song building up, building up, and you just see these sheep standing around. Still, I liked the track and the video both.

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Trance-M
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Location: Limburg, Netherlands

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I still remember first time I listened to the KLF, when they hit the radio with 3am Eternal... That was the first sinlge by the KLF that way played on the radio where I live. What time is love came after even if older.


KLF rocked.

America, What time is love?

I would say KLF was in time between acid house and trance, german techno.


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Yet is nothing still something? It's like that painting of a pipe that says "This is not a pipe".




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quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
I can make the same exact argument with Orbital. They are also not a trance act but if you were to take their track 'Halcyon' for example, any old schooler would tell you that is regarded as a trance classic by default even though it is breaks. I'm making the same assumption with FSOL. I agree it's truly breaks as you say, but calling it trance is not wrong either as that record does express some of those elements.


And the same can be said about the KLF. There's plenty of music that is trancey that is not always labeled trance. The KLF isn't widely regarded as a trance act, as others like Paul van Dyk, Armin van Buuren, Ferry Corsten, Airwave, Phynn, Steve Helstrip, Above & Beyond, Ronski Speed, Micro de Govia, Greg Murray, Solar Stone, Alex MORPH, Smith & Pledger, Super 8, Oliver Lieb, Push/M.I.K.E., Cygnus X, Three Drives, Mike Shiver etc etc are are. When people think of these artists (people that know them) they think of them as trance.

But I will say that KLF's music is trancey, even some of Pink Floyd's stuff is, and a lot of Tangerine Dream's and Jean Michel Jarre's stuff, but that doesn't make them trance either. It just means that being hypnotic is a part of a lot of music, it doesn't owe itself just to a specific genre called "trance". Plenty of World Music, esp Latin, Indian and African has a hypnotic appeal to it, esp with the heavy percussion and hypnotic effects, like with the Sitar in Indian music, Conga in Latin music, and all of the various African Drums.

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gizzymcg
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KLF rocked full stop. KLF was the first proper EDM i ever listenend to. White Room still gets played at after partys for us.

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moo
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lol this is the best damn video i've ever seen!


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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
I can make the same exact argument with Orbital. They are also not a trance act but if you were to take their track 'Halcyon' for example, any old schooler would tell you that is regarded as a trance classic by default even though it is breaks. I'm making the same assumption with FSOL. I agree it's truly breaks as you say, but calling it trance is not wrong either as that record does express some of those elements.


Halcyon is not a breakbeat track and Papua New Guinea is not a trance track.


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