Haha... who goes to a party and stares at the DJ all night? Try and have FUN. It's a PARTY.

Use what works for you. Ableton is not the end all and be all of digital DJ'ing, there WILL be more coming down the line.

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Originally posted by Zild I was at a party today and I had to tell my friend. Damn this is about as boring as watching paint try those records just go in circles over and over again.

If you can't warp a stable dance tune in under 30 seconds you're doing it wrong, look up some tutorials.

I already switched to Ableton 2 years ago and would never go back.

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I don't see myself using it anytime soon for DJ'ing either. My reasons are:

1) Taking a laptop everywhere isn't very ideal as sometimes I'm in very dusty enviroments and not to mention eventually someone will probably try to steal it. Lets not forget crashes, the last thing I'd ever want is for the music to stop because the computer felt like going on vacation.

2) I can't see myself having as much fun with a laptop. It's a rush searching through your tunes and getting them beatmatched. I feel that clicking and dragging a song over wouldn't really give me that rush.

3) I hate sitting at computers doing boring tasks like warping..

4) I like the feel of CDJ's (don't kill me vinyl defenders!)

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30 seconds? maybe if you're using auto warp... but that never gets it quite right.

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Originally posted by jahnlay If you can't warp a stable dance tune in under 30 seconds you're doing it wrong, look up some tutorials. I already switched to Ableton 2 years ago and would never go back.

Autowarp usually gets the timing exactly right but it never puts the first beat in the right place. Simply grab the first beat and adjust it so that it's exactly on. Then check at say, beat 17, to see if it's exactly on, then go to the end of the track and check if it's exactly on. If it's slightly off, just grab the beat marker and drag it on (don't double click for a warp marker, they are only needed for tracks that drift out of time. Obviously if a track drifts a lot or is recorded by a band, you'll need to create many more warp markers, but for most dance tunes that are created with sequencers, they are rock solid and don't drift).

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I don't think I'll ever go 100% to Ableton. I much prefer to get my hands on Techs or CDJs and my EFX-1000. However, I would like to get a Bitstream 3x and get Ableton running loops on top of my decks. Maybe even get a few jam sessions going during my sets. Ableton is a great tool, but I don't think it's very good as standalone DJ software.

Even though I can appreciate the creativeness and the plethora of features available with Ableton live, I am a more spontaneous DJ. I really don't like spending hours arranging samples, effect loops, etc beforehand and loading everything into a sequence before I play for an hour or two.

I used ableton for 2 months but after purchasing my electribe sampler and my 2 cdj's, the feel of "hands on" equipment is quite intoxicating when playing live. I love having direct access to knobs on the electribe sampler and i love the warm analog sound. Well in my opinion, i like the hands on feel of equipment instead of having to mimic everything via a pc program.

anyone else agree?

BTW: "My engineering profession has me sitting infront of a PC 9-10 hours a day, that could also be my reason for not using ableton lol"

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Originally posted by DamienR8 Even though I can appreciate the creativeness and the plethora of features available with Ableton live, I am a more spontaneous DJ. I really don't like spending hours arranging samples, effect loops, etc beforehand and loading everything into a sequence before I play for an hour or two.

Hmm I don't think you were doing it right if it took you hours of prep before starting a mix. If I want to do a mix in Ableton which I often do when I'm at the computer surfing the web and working on my studies I do it in real time it doesn't take me any prep work. It is faster than if I were digging through crates of records or a CD wallet looking for tracks. What is so hard about loading in a track looking through the rest of your tracks and loading up another one to mix in? Or looking through your samples for a vocal or some precussion to add?

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[i][b]my 2 cdj's...i love the warm analog sound.

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