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Subey
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Objects and Representation

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Originally posted by astroboy
If telepathy of some form ever became scientifically possible, the change to the very nature of comunication (and therefore knowledge and human nature itself) would be truly astounding. Perhaps we would finally capture the real. One can only speculate.


I wasn't thinking full on telepathy, just a baby step. Where your mind automatically selects the right interpretation.



I still have to say "I am holding a pipe"
but attached telepathically would be the adjective "plumbing"


So when you hear me you automatically picture the correct type of pipe.

(Little Jack Horner...)


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astroboy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Objects and Representation

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Originally posted by Subey
I wasn't thinking full on telepathy, just a baby step. Where your mind automatically selects the right interpretation.



I still have to say "I am holding a pipe"
but attached telepathically would be the adjective "plumbing"


So when you hear me you automatically picture the correct type of pipe.

(Little Jack Horner...)


hmm interesting, but imho wouldn't come close to solving the dilema... but i'm a post-modernism/structuralism whore.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Objects and Representation

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i think my explanation works better than yours


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pkcRAISTLIN
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Re: Re: Objects and Representation

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think plato's forms, with a pipe being a form


what he said.

though this entire conversation perfectly illustrates why i dropped philosophy. it being a collossal wank and all...


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Re: Re: Re: Objects and Representation

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what he said.


w00t, validation!

quote:
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though this entire conversation perfectly illustrates why i dropped philosophy. it being a collossal wank and all...


hey now


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hey now


oh come now what exactly has (for instance) plato's forms done to change the world or furthered our understanding of anything? its an almost superstitious argument with god at its heart.

philsosphy is indeed interesting, but too often it borders on chronic masturbation


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Objects and Representation

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oh come now what exactly has (for instance) plato's forms done to change the world or furthered our understanding of anything? its an almost superstitious argument with god at its heart.

philsosphy is indeed interesting, but too often it borders on chronic masturbation


and what of the sciences? would we even have developed most of them if it werent for philosophy?


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and what of the sciences? would we even have developed most of them if it werent for philosophy?


of course. from memory, according to the stephen hawking's universe DVDs there was plenty of science going on before/independently of the first philosophers.

i think the philsophers only caught up with the scientists when they spent hundreds of years trying to turn lead into gold


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Objects and Representation

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of course. from memory, according to the stephen hawking's universe DVDs there was plenty of science going on before/independently of the first philosophers.

i think the philsophers only caught up with the scientists when they spent hundreds of years trying to turn lead into gold


Thales (often regarded as the father of science), Pythagoras (the so-called "father of numbers"), Zeno of Elea (the supposed inventor of the dialectic, if we are to trust our old friend ->), Aristotle (physics anyone? )

i could go on


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Thales (often regarded as the father of science), Pythagoras (the so-called "father of numbers"), Zeno of Elea (the supposed inventor of the dialectic, if we are to trust our old friend ->), Aristotle (physics anyone? )

i could go on



philosophy sucks, its just like latin....dead.

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philosophy sucks, its just like latin....dead.


yet you still use both in your daily life.


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yet you still use both in your daily life.



i use a lot of things that suck in my life doesn't make them cool.

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