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geroin
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did those signatures help at all?

Old Post Jul-28-2006 18:03  Russia
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According to 680 News though, they can reopen with their license, but not allowed to have any DJs!

http://www.680news.com/news/local/a...728_132944_1988

"The Docks must also pay up on fines totalling $14,000, and can no longer play music on the patio after 11 p.m., is not allowed to have DJ's, and the windows have to stay closed."

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According to 680 News though, they can reopen with their license, but not allowed to have any DJs!

http://www.680news.com/news/local/a...728_132944_1988

"The Docks must also pay up on fines totalling $14,000, and can no longer play music on the patio after 11 p.m., is not allowed to have DJ's, and the windows have to stay closed."


wtf???????

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Originally posted by fairy godfather
Great news for everyone involved! Congrats...

Please remember the city councillors who supported this closure in the fall...it's time for a change....throw the bums out!



ALONG WITH THE MAYOR!! PLease for thelove of god, vote against the mayor and research councillors in your area to see if they have done any good for the city.

But first and foremost i think its clear to most people that MILLER NEEDS TO GO!!

If the docks hasnt illustrated that (along with the island bridge and the panhandlers) i dont know what will.


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Everything in this country is illegal.

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Old Post Jul-28-2006 18:22  Canada
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Jayx1
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Only in Canada would there actually be a COURT IMPOSED BAN ON DJS

How sickly disturbing... free country you say? hahahahahah! sure!

I guess the judge is more of a live rock fan?

Un fucking believable.


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Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Old Post Jul-28-2006 18:23  Canada
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Jayx1
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Wow, read this article. You'd swear i wrote it myself! LOL. At least someone else can see how all the whining out there is actually interconnected among issues and not as isolated as everyone would like to believe.

quote:

The Docks may be forced to close
by Joe Warmington

"Something will rise from the ashes of The Docks."

This prognostication came from the mouth of Councillor Paula Fletcher on SUN TV's CANOE Live Wednesday.

She's right. It's called a $50-million lawsuit. "It could even be more," said a source. "They have too much money invested to be shut down like that."

You don't have to be a lawyer to see that. And shut down is exactly what will happen should a judge honour the crazy Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario decision to revoke The Docks liquor licence when they head into a courtroom at Osgoode Hall this morning.

There has got to be some other -- less lethal -- option.


The Docks -- which is not a rogue underground club but a showpiece of how great one can be -- will sink like a lake freighter with a giant hole in its bow.

Last night Docks director Tammy Grisdale said they hope for a stay so they can host several previously booked events for this weekend.

What I find amazing is how Fletcher has already counted them out -- almost as if the left-leaning councillor has an idea of exactly what they have planned for that property.

There's due process for most -- there was for city council which in the end fleeced the taxpayer again yesterday by giving themselves a 9% pay hike at a time when the city is broke.

It's takes a lot gall to stick it to the taxpayers like that -- the same ones struggling to make ends meet in a difficult city to survive in. All of those councillors who supported that should be voted out by a public who can only dream of earning a $95,000-a-year base salary.

Do they really think they are worth 9%? We know what most of them are against more than what we know they are for. These people are out of control -- drunk with power and have absolutely no concept of free enterprise. Their giant raise is far down the list of things that should be addressed by them.

The city's unions must be licking their chops for negotiations to start -- just like the lawyers will be if The Docks is railroaded today.

Remember the dynamited island airport bridge debacle? How much has that legal nightmare cost the taxpayer so far? Wish they could take whatever it is out of council's freshly counted 9%. That money would help the 300 kids who could lose their jobs today.

Meanwhile it's difficult to imagine any judge is going to want to kill such a major investment and employer based on the complaints of a few elitists wanting to live in their own private preserve on the Island. There's got to be a middle ground that could serve both very interesting destinations in the city.

The Docks is a terrific attraction and there's also a lot to be proud of with the unusual community the islanders have built. Neither should be bulldozed. Both celebrated. There's room for both. There's room for common sense too. It seems capitalism is a dirty word and yet the left seem to have their own plans for that Docks land. This noise nonsense may be just a smoke screen to get control of what could be part of a world's fair bid. Or maybe a homeless shelter!

It won't be as easy to achieve as that 9% was. The family that controls that property have a 99-year lease on it and have expensive lawyers too. You haven't heard noise like you will hear when that court battle starts.

Today's court date is a benchmark. "A lot of club owners are watching this," said famous promoter The Original Kid Rock. "They are saying if they can close down Canada's biggest liquor licence then they can come after me."

It is a dangerous precedent. We shouldn't be killing businesses but trying to encourage it. Small business entrepreneurs with dreams create jobs. Even the countries who used to operate under failed communism understand that now.

The problem here today is if the clean-living, green-living, carrot-juice-loving, non-smoking, low-emissions, no street hockey or skateboarding crowd win today they are going to be almost unstoppable.

If it happens, start packing up the island airport -- five cottagers want quiet.


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Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Old Post Jul-28-2006 18:27  Canada
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ALONG WITH THE MAYOR!! PLease for thelove of god, vote against the mayor and research councillors in your area to see if they have done any good for the city.

But first and foremost i think its clear to most people that MILLER NEEDS TO GO!!

If the docks hasnt illustrated that (along with the island bridge and the panhandlers) i dont know what will.



+1

Old Post Jul-28-2006 18:33  Canada
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And another article. This one shows exactly what kind of a sweetheart deal the islanders have. You really think those houses are only worth $90G?

What kind of corruption is going on here? Id like to know why the city is only charging them taxes on a value of only $90Gs? Shouldnt those houses be worth closer to a million based on the proprty alone???

Disgusting!


quote:

Good life on the island
DOWNTOWN LIVING AT A FRACTION OF THE COST
By CHRISTINA BLIZZARD

The Docks nightclub goes to court this morning, fighting to get its liquor licence back.

The Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario (AGCO) lifted the licence of the huge waterfront entertainment complex following noise complaints, mostly from residents of Toronto Island.

Earlier this week, I suggested the Islanders are just a bunch of killjoys who want to call all the shots on the waterfront. They nixed an airport. They don't want a bridge. They didn't want Wakefest. Heck, they're even complaining about a proposed power plant on the waterfront.

What is most surprising is how the powers that be kowtow to this loudmouth bunch of malcontents. Big time.

I have been swamped with e-mails and phone calls from readers who are steamed about the Islanders. A number of you wanted to know just how sweet the Islanders' deal is.


The land trust on the Island was set up by the former NDP government in 1993. Islanders were granted 99-year leases that at that time cost $36,000 on Ward's Island and $46,000 on Algonquin Island. Since then, the cost of the lease has gone up between $7,000 and $12,000. Basically, a cup of coffee a day got them the land.

According to the Toronto Island website, island houses are valued between $30,000 and $400,000, with the average range being between $100,000 and $160,000. Prices are regulated to avoid speculation.

So, here they are, well-heeled types -- who don't like to be called "squatters" -- living in a prime location in downtown Toronto. The Island trust maintains a 500-person waiting list (currently closed) of people wanting in on this deal.

That raises the question of property taxes. Everyone knows when it comes to property values, only three words count: Location, location, location. And these homes have a million-dollar view. Remember though, that it costs taxpayers big bucks to support this community, with firefighters, an ambulance, a paramedic, etc.

Yet these folks, living on some of the choicest land in the city, are paying some of the lowest property taxes in the GTA.

For example, one of the most vocal critics of the Docks, Freya Godard, lives in a home assessed at $90,000. Yep, you read that right. A pittance. And since 2001, while assessments have soared everywhere else, hers has gone up only $6,000.

Another vocal critic, Lynn Robinson, lives in a home assessed at $80,000. Carol Bigwood's home is assessed at $102,000 -- up only $6,000 since 2001.

By comparison, a small two-bedroom house in Scarborough was assessed at $321,000, up $110,000 since 2001. A home in West Hill was assessed at $452,000 -- up $113,000 since 2001. A modest home in the Upper Beach is assessed at $635,000 -- up $182,000 since 2001. Another average home in downtown Toronto is assessed at about $500,000 -- up $204,000 since 2001.

Assessments are soaring and seniors are selling their homes because they can't afford the taxes. But this privileged enclave on the Toronto Island is paying a pittance -- in some cases around $1,000 a year in property taxes. Go figure.

You'd think with this kind of a cushy deal, they would just shut up and count their blessings. But no. They got quite emotional in their testimony at the AGCO. Robinson said her partner developed a "severe noise phobia." Hey, one word: Earplugs.

I think I have a cure. If we can't just bulldoze the cottages, why don't we tow the Island into the middle of the lake? Islanders won't hear the noise from The Docks, and the rest of us can have a couple of drinks and not upset their cocoa. Best of all, we won't be able to hear them gripe.

So, here's to you, Mrs. Robinson. And a helpful hint to Islanders: The world looks a lot more fun through a glass or three of Bombay Sapphire and tonic. Enjoy.


IF YOU HAVE NEVER VOTED IN A CITY ELECTION BEFORE I URGE YOU TO VOTE THIS NOVEMBER AGAINST MAYOR MILLOR AND THE OTHER SOCIALIST CRONIES THAT ARE TURNING THIS CITY INTO A FAILED SHELL OF ITS FORMER SELF

Lastman wasnt so bad after all was he?


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‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1
Only in Canada would there actually be a COURT IMPOSED BAN ON DJS

How sickly disturbing... free country you say? hahahahahah! sure!

I guess the judge is more of a live rock fan?

Un fucking believable.


Yea', seriously. What is the logic behind this?!

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Yea', seriously. What is the logic behind this?!


bad writing as i suspected...... no dj ban lol

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...path=News/News


Docks nightclub open for business
Jul. 28, 2006. 02:15 PM
HEBA ALY
STAFF REPORTER


The Docks nightclub is back in business.
A division court justice today stayed an order to revoke the nightclub and entertainment complex's liquor licence until an appeal is heard.

The club lost is licence because of noise complaints filed by residents on the nearby Toronto Islands.

The club will rake in revenues of approximately $250,000 this weekend as a result of the stay.

But "we don't look at this as a win," said owner Jerry Sprackman, who must obey a number of conditions imposed by Justice Katherine Swinton and must wait months before an appeal of the original decision is heard.

Among the conditions:

- that the Docks pay outstanding fines of $14,377.50 by tonight at 5 p.m.

- that there be no large outdoor events such

as concerts.

- that any amplified music, disc jockey or voice on the patio be between 11 a.m. and 11 p.m. only until the appeal is heard.

Earlier this week, the 10,000-person waterfront club had its liquor licence revoked by the Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario over the noise complaints. Lawyers for the club then announced they would appeal.


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Lastman wasnt so bad after all was he?



I'm not a Miller fan.. but yes.. Lastman was way worse then Miller. Lastman would expense the city for the hot dogs he ate among other stupid things he did.. Just rediculous really, these public servants are not servants to the public at all. They are servants to a priviliged few and it's just amazing to me how far these priviliged few get becuase they have expensive lawyers. Really goes to show -- if you have money you are above all decency, rules, regulations.. well the law to be honest.


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