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Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Purple
impeach Bush and arrest him for war crimes.


Only the citizenry of the US by way of the congress has the ability to impeach a president. IF you are going to suggest things please at least ensure they are possible even if not plausable or practical.


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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Moral Hazard
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As far as the UN's efficacy goes.... in terms of military action it is as impotant as a 400lb 98 year old smoker with diabeties and a high stress job on day 4 of a meth bender.

If the UN is to be taken seriously in matters of war and peace the member nations need to commite funds, equipment and personal for a standing UN military that operates autonomously and at arms length from the political direction of either the security counsel or the general assembly. Without this UN peace missions will always be bogged down by conflicting political wills, scarcity of resources, and excessive administrative protocals as was the case in Rawanda. I highly recommend Lt. Gen. Romeo Dallier's book "Shake Hands With The Devil" for a first hand account of the UN's military failings (in Rawanda but equally applicable in other instances) from the mission commander.


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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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quote:
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Only the citizenry of the US by way of the congress has the ability to impeach a president. IF you are going to suggest things please at least ensure they are possible even if not plausable or practical.


Well than leave impeachment and arrest the mass-murderer straight-away, or best execute him in his White House residence itself than and there.

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Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Purple
Well than leave impeachment and arrest the mass-murderer straight-away, or best kill him in his White House residence itself than and there.


Fixed. Without trial, conviction, and sentancing it is called murder not execution.

Purple, I can understand you dislike the US and, likely more specifically, their foreign policy but you really do yourself a disservice by spouting nonsense like you do. If you always suggest things that are highly reactionary, illogical, impractical, implausable if not impossible, and unreasonable then no one will take you seriously on anything even if you have a valid point to be made.


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I think the UN needs to militarize and become the worlds police. The military wing should also be devoid of national identity so it faces no bounds on who they have to police.



How this would all work I don't know... It would be cool though.


uh.... ack!??!


seriously .. this is a terrible idea


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jdat
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quote:
Originally posted by Nou
I think the UN needs to militarize and become the worlds police. The military wing should also be devoid of national identity so it faces no bounds on who they have to police.



How this would all work I don't know... It would be cool though.



You love utopic ideas.

A true global police is impossible for many reasons.

Right now there are 192 United Nations member states. Let's just imagine that we had a global police with people from all these nations .... uh ?

Who would we be fighting? The potential out of space invaders?

The United Nations is not a governing body, but a task force working to coordinate global political affairs.





And on the matter of the effectiveness of the United Nations, I would have to say no.
More and more they are taking a stance of excessive neutrality and are working their hardest to avoid stirring up too much controversy.
The structure in it's present state is ineffective and too tied down by everyone pushing a political agenda preventing any real global advancement.
For anyone truly interested on the matter I highly recommend you watch some of the “debates” from the United Nations. Webcast archives as well as transcripts of discussion sessions are easily accessible.
You will see how stale and non ground breaking the whole process is.

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