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ASFSE
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Originally posted by zenperson

If you want to make your own stuff and evolve into a more competent producer, then take keyboard because you'll be able to construct better melodies and understand how chord structure works. It will help you program more original stuff instead of relying so much on MIDI.



actually, learning how to play the keyboard(especially an intro class) will not help with constructing better melodies, theory will help more with that. theory will also help you understand chord structure as well, as opposed to an intro piano class. in an intro to keyboard class you probably won't learn enough to really help you with production, but it may make you more proficient at messing around on your midi controller, which is good i guess... i don't see why you would need to learn how to play the keys if you just wanna produce. go with theory, then take private piano lessons if you really wanna learn to play.

ultimatly, it comes down to how much work you wanna put into your production. to really understand music theory and apply it to your EDM productions, i belieave that you would have to have several years of practice and knowledge of it to really help you.

in fact, you really dont need to know anything above very basic theory to produce quality tracks. so take the intro to theory class , the most help it will do is teach you the music luangange so you can communicate with other musicians fluently. this is important when trying to collaborate with others and you have ideas that you want to get across...it helps to know how to explain it the correct way.

anyway, whatever.

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actually, learning how to play the keyboard(especially an intro class) will not help with constructing better melodies, theory will help more with that.


uhh... i've been a piano player for 20 years now buddy, having been trained professionally for 8 and improv for 12 ... i'm pretty sure i know what I'm talking about...

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Well when you say production skills I guess you mean melody writing included.

I'd choose the keyboard class because I'd enjoy it more and they'd have to teach me the basics of theory anyway.

If I chose theory I wouldn't enjoy it and would get pissed off wishing I was in the keyboard class.

And actually, I couldn't see myself in the keyboard class wishing i was learning theory

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Does this keyboarding class actually mean learning to play the keyboard from music charts? If so, that's basic music theory right there. And playing music will help you develop an inherent comprehension of musical structure that no amount of theory can give you.

Furthermore, keyboarding will give you a background in live performance of music, which may or may not come in handy.

One thing theory will teach you that keyboarding won't is tonal balance, which is something most producers must learn. That is, don't let your musical elements occupy the same frequency range, otherwise you'll get interference. And if you didn't know that, you do now, and a class in theory is no longer necessary for you.

Theory also teaches a bunch of junk about the common associations with certain modes, melodic patterns, chord structures, and even instruments. Well, if you're at all musical, you'll understand these sorts of things without needing to be told. Except maybe the instrumentation part, but you're not really using bassoons or violins, are you?


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uhh... i've been a piano player for 20 years now buddy, having been trained professionally for 8 and improv for 12 ... i'm pretty sure i know what I'm talking about...


i said an intro class will not make a difference...

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i said an intro class will not make a difference...



I certainly hope you have some evidence to back that up... Brains on before hands on buddy... Try it some time...

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EDIT: Oh, and none will improve you _production_ skills...


Very true... only your composition skills will benefit.

If you take keyboarding first, music theory is much easier to learn. Plus you'll learn basic music theory while learning to play piano... such as Scales, Chords and Time/Key Signitures. All theory courses that I've taken have piano performance as part of the course.


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yeah i would agree with learning the piano and the notes so you can know which notes sound good together =)!

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music theory 101 is the new black this coming fall term. take music theory ,dude


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