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Shakka
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Originally posted by DaveSZ


Good question. Mabye they can all talk about it in death together, provided JonBenet sees dead people.

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Between this story about Jonbenet and Paris Hilton's New CD, one could think that the world is one big peace full place... God sometimes I hate US News,

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Psionic
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Not everyone cares about Israel looking to get its ass kicked.


Yeah but the fact that people give a crap more about the JonBenet Ramsey case, which doesn't directly affect their lives, over something like our problems with Iran which could potentially affect us all, I wonder how the mass media figures out its priorities for news stories and items...

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now c'mon people!



someone throw a bucket of cold water on this moron.

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Psionic
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Well until Iran or Israel does something interesting the media doesn't give a fuck.

So what I would suggest you do, as a Jew, is attack some Muslims in the middle east, ya know, convince some people to go bomb or rape and pillage a refuge camp, etc.

Muslims, go blow yourselves up and cause some random carnage to piss off the Jews.

Oh and if you are going to commit to wiping each other off the face of the planet, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO IT, THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITH OUT BOTH YOUR FUCKING RIDICULOUS KIND. JUST GET IT OVER WITH AND LET THE REST OF THE RELATIVELY SANE WORLD CONTINUE ON DOWN ITS PATH!

(this is in no way saying religions other than those of the Jewish and Muslims people are any better, you all suck, but you are the worst at the moment!)


I'm sorry, it wasn't a Jew that was responsible for the U.S.'s predicament in Iraq. Israel was doing just what it was supposed to until the fucking UN had to stick it's corrupt nose into this.

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Re: Re: Re: JonBenet's killer arrested.

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Originally posted by Shakka
They ran with the story. However, if the same media is somehow able to crack the Natalie Holloway disappearance, I'll take back some of what I said.

Edit: I caught a bit of the E! True Hollywood documentary show about the whole case. Actually quite interesting.


Well I mean really ... the governor conveys that the killers are the Ramseyes, the local police is instigating that the killers are the ramseys, I simply don't know what your beef is. Shouldn't you be directing your ire towards the governor or the police instead of the media? The media is simply doing what they do best and that's reporting juicy stories. If anybody is guilty of fabrication or lying it's the aforementioned parties. So I assume you have a poor opinion of Bill Ownens?


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Shakka
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Well I mean really ... the governor conveys that the killers are the Ramseyes, the local police is instigating that the killers are the ramseys, I simply don't know what your beef is.


I don't think I really have a beef other than to point out that the media put a magnifying glass on a false story and blew it way out of proportion. Aren't they supposed to do some actualy reporting on facts or do they just take one possible theory with little evidence and run with it? It's more commentary on the sad state of our culture than on any personal "beef" with the media. For all we know OJ could really be innocent! I keeed, I keeed.


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Shouldn't you be directing your ire towards the governor or the police instead of the media? The media is simply doing what they do best and that's reporting juicy stories. If anybody is guilty of fabrication or lying it's the aforementioned parties. So I assume you have a poor opinion of Bill Ownens?


I actually don't have an opinion of Bill Owens. I just have a problem with the way the court of public opinion works--particularly when it is guided and influenced by so much bullshit coming out of the media. Bill Owens may have said something, but the media could've done a better job of uncovering facts before jumping (and causing just about everyone to jump to conclusions with them) to the conclusion that 2 parents are guilty of murdering their child. Hell, this case just gets weirder and weirder.

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DaveSZ
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Originally posted by Psionic
Yeah but the fact that people give a crap more about the JonBenet Ramsey case, which doesn't directly affect their lives, over something like our problems with Iran which could potentially affect us all, I wonder how the mass media figures out its priorities for news stories and items...



Here's the formula:

Pretty + white + female + dead = gold!




Natalie Holloway or Lacy Peterson anyone?

I've mostly given up on TV "news."


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Shakka
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Here's the formula:

Pretty + white + female + dead = gold!


It is a good formula. The younger the better. Double points if she's preggers.

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It is a good formula. The younger the better. Double points if she's preggers.


Twofer!


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Psionic
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It is a good formula. The younger the better. Double points if she's preggers.


Said, but I LOLed

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Christ, this story keeps getting stranger. Maybe it is just some kook that wanted a free ride home from Thailand (A global hotspot for NAMBLA-friendly enterprises, by the way). And he has 3 sons??? I want to know what the fuck a father of 3 is doing in Thailand getting his facial hair removed to pave way for a radical sex change operation! What. The. pFuck. I think this guy may just have a strong prediliction for taking it in the ass.

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Karr Waives Extradition To Colorado
Former Teacher Told Police He Was There When JonBenet Ramsey Died

POSTED: 6:30 am CDT August 22, 2006
UPDATED: 2:58 pm CDT August 22, 2006
LOS ANGELES -- John Mark Karr waived his right Tuesday to challenge extradition to Colorado, where he faces possible murder charges.

The suspect in the slaying of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey waived extradition in a brief hearing in Los Angeles, where he was represented by a public defender. When asked by the judge if he understood his rights under the extradition waiver, Karr said: "Yes, your honor."

The Los Angeles County district attorney's office had charged him with being a fugitive from justice. The complaint notes that Karr, 41, was charged with murder in a warrant issued last week in Boulder, Colo.

The court said Boulder authorities have until Sept. 6 to pick up Karr. On Sunday, Karr voluntarily accompanied authorities on a flight from Thailand to California, where he has since been jailed.

Lawyer: Photo Proves Karr Was Not In Colorado

A 1996 photo of a Karr family holiday gathering is giving the family more reason to believe John Karr couldn't have been with 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey when she was killed at the same time in Boulder.

Gary Harris, the lawyer for Karr's relatives, told The Denver Post and The Washington Post Karr's father has found a photo of Karr's three sons during the Christmas dinner in Atlanta. He said the family is certain that if the sons were there, then Karr would have been there, too.

Harris said the photo is from 1996 because an infant pictured in it was born in the same month of the same year.

Karr's second wife, Lara Knutson, has said he did not miss family Christmases. The couple, who lived in Alabama at the time, are now divorced.

Meanwhile, all that stands between Karr and the last leg of his journey from Thailand to Colorado is a brief court appearance.

Karr is scheduled to appear before a judge Tuesday morning in Los Angeles for a procedural hearing. If he doesn't fight extradition, Boulder authorities will soon be able to take him to the city where Ramsey was slain a decade ago.

The 41-year-old teacher has told reporters he was with JonBenet when she died in the basement of her Boulder home on Dec. 26, 1996, and that her slaying in her home's basement was an accident. Little is publicly known, however, about what evidence Boulder officials have against him.

The Colorado Bureau of Investigation has not been asked to compare any evidence from Karr with evidence taken from the Ramsey crime scene.

Los Angeles County jail officials said Karr met with various lawyers Tuesday to discuss the extradition hearing. They included lawyers from the public defender's office and San Jose attorney Patience Van Zandt, who represented Karr on child pornography charges in 2001 in northern California.

Van Zandt said that Karr planned retain a lawyer when he gets to Boulder.

Media Wants Documents Unsealed

A Colorado district attorney plans to oppose media organizations' requests to unseal arrest warrants and other documents documents involving Karr.

News organizations want access to the arrest warrant and other documents involving Karr.

The court filing in Colorado said there is great public interest in whether the former Alabama teacher's arrest solved the case or is yet another "mistake."

The district attorney's office in Boulder said it will oppose unsealing the records because the case is still under investigation.

Colorado Residents Bristle

Karr's lavish flight from Thailand to California doesn't sit well with some Boulder residents who may wind up footing the bill.

A 25-year-old bookstore employee in Boulder said he doesn't think the suspect in JonBenet Ramsey's slaying should be, as he put it, "schmoozing on the taxpayers' dime."

Brandon Pelcher said Karr's sips of champagne and dining on roast duck and chocolate cake seem "like another twist in a crazy saga."

Authorities said Karr volunteered to return to the United States and wasn't really a prisoner until he got off the plane. Since arriving in Los Angeles, he has been housed alone in what sheriff's officials call a "high power" cell for noteworthy inmates and is checked by guards every 15 minutes.

Earlier Probe Offered No Clues

A 2001 investigation into child pornography charges against Karr turned up no clues clearly tying him to the Ramsey murder, according to the Sonoma County, Calif., sheriff.

Karr was arrested in April 2001 on five misdemeanor counts of possessing child pornography.

The sheriff's remarks came after a woman described in court documents as a police informant said she exchanged e-mails and taped more than 20 hours of phone conversations with Karr shortly before his 2001 arrest.

Cogbill would not verify Hutchens' account, citing the Boulder district attorney's ongoing murder investigation. But he said he expects to speak with Colorado authorities this week.

Another Doctor Confirms Sex-Change Rumors

A doctor in Thailand said JonBenet Ramsey's suspected killer wanted his facial hair permanently removed in advance of a sex-change operation.

The dermatologist said John Karr had his sideburns and chin hair removed with lasers to prepare for sex-change surgery.

Another doctor at a Bangkok clinic specializing in sex-change surgery revealed Sunday that Karr was one of his patients.

The Thai capital where Karr lived on and off for two years is a popular center for gender reassignment operations, where such surgery is advertised for as little as $1,700.


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