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Moral Hazard
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Registered: Mar 2005
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Originally posted by Jayx1
thats what we have in harper IMO

so far hes done a lot in the past 6 months. And hes not letting the direction of the wind influnce his policies either.

im not saying he has visions on the scale of PET but hes a doer and not just a sayer like weve seen in the last few decades.


I had hoped Harper would have acted as I described but sadly I don't see it. In some ways sure but on other things like backing down on allowing the members of the steering committee to act as lobbists and the GST cut I see his weaknesses. Most glaringly I have trouble with the lack of transparency and access to ministers by the media especially when he claimed they wanted more accountability. Unfortunately, Mr. Harper has become the same ilk of broker politition he railled against years ago. I know we'll differ on this Jay, but that is the impression I have gotten from Harper's time in the PMO.


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you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Moral Hazard
Oppressing the 99%



Registered: Mar 2005
Location: with the 1%

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Originally posted by Jayx1
thats because all mcguinty did was break his promises while harris did exactly what he said hed do.

under mcguinty we are still get services cut and unions are still angry. But on top of that weve also had tax increases and nanny state laws.


You do have to give Mike points for doing what he said he would. Where I get upset with the Harris governments is that they also did many things they never said they would.


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you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Misanthrope
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Registered: Feb 2005
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well he does seem to have the stiff upper lip.

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Jayx1
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he has kept his promises the GST being one of them.

As far as the media is concerned i agree with him 100%. The media is nothing but yellow journalism. The more you give them the more the become a feeding frenzy and twist things. Im also happy hes not going to every single stupid event that whines because hes not there.

The AIDS conference and out games being 2 that come to mind. No one said anything when chretien never came to these sorts of events. did they?

Good for our PM for actually governing instead of wasting time on photo ops.

Hes critisized for being in the arctic this week instead of the AIDS conference. This IS A GOOD THING. Dont people see that hes doing something he feels is important for the future of this country instead of photo ops? The north has hardly ANY VOTING POWER yet hes up there trying to secure our sovereignty for the future of our nation. What would he have accomplished at the AIDS conference that richard gere and the like wouldnt have? Policy comes from ottawa, not feel good speaches at conferences,


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Moral Hazard
Oppressing the 99%



Registered: Mar 2005
Location: with the 1%

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
he has kept his promises the GST being one of them.

As far as the media is concerned i agree with him 100%. The media is nothing but yellow journalism. The more you give them the more the become a feeding frenzy and twist things. Im also happy hes not going to every single stupid event that whines because hes not there.

The AIDS conference and out games being 2 that come to mind. No one said anything when chretien never came to these sorts of events. did they?

Good for our PM for actually governing instead of wasting time on photo ops.

Hes critisized for being in the arctic this week instead of the AIDS conference. This IS A GOOD THING. Dont people see that hes doing something he feels is important for the future of this country instead of photo ops? The north has hardly ANY VOTING POWER yet hes up there trying to secure our sovereignty for the future of our nation. What would he have accomplished at the AIDS conference that richard gere and the like wouldnt have? Policy comes from ottawa, not feel good speaches at conferences,


I can agree with you regarding not being at the AIDS conference, however, I have some issues with what you have stated.

First, while he stuck to his promise regarding the GST you must admit that the cut itself was pandering as it is the very worst tax cut that could be given. Arguing against this is simply not an option as all the economists have already weighed in. Do I like paying less tax, sure, but was it the best of the options, no.

The media bias issue is a myth in my eyes but that is beside the point. One of Harper's first directives was to keep his ministers away from the media. This centralizes all communication through his office. If nothing else such control gives the impression of less transparency.

Finally, Mr. Harper doesn't avoid all photo ops... just some. Taking his official photographer on his rescue mission speaks to this not to mention that the Canadians flown out had to be rounded up and brough to cyprus specially for that opportunity.

Okay, I really don't want to debate Harper's performance, I'll just state again that I am disappointed. Only he can change that, not you Jay. We'll have to agree to disagree for the time being.


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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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