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biznology
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Originally posted by Devbert
When did the scene get stagnate?


oh jeez, and this is only a personal opinion. prolly before summer of 2001. it was just like it is now, only 800x more community. ive seen so many peeps up and bounce since then - tis aiight tho. late/


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Old Post Mar-13-2002 01:40  United States
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Devbert
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I think the scene is still alive, it's just always been a bigger thing in Europe and Canada then in the states.


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Old Post Mar-13-2002 05:03  United States
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I think file swapping is a god send. Not just because I now get free music online but because its gives music more of an exposure. Independent artists or newbies or anyone else in the music industry for that matter can have their stuff circulated more widely and quickly with file sharing. I have paid far too much for CD's in which I end up only liking one freaking song on it. Sometimes its good to be able to sample the music before making a purchase.


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Sand Leaper
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Ironic,isn't it?All the commercial artists,who already make millions of bucks,are those who bitch and moan the most about their music getting "stolen".While the djs,small artists and producers really don't give a shit whether they're tracks are downloaded illegally or not.In fact,some of them actually feel HONORED if somebody chooses to dl just THEIR track.Interesting fact...

Anyway,there are significant ups and downs to filesharing.Of course its annoying too see your track getting dl'ed 30 times,only to think
that"there goes that money out of the window." Now,if you're a small artists in the start phase of your career,you could really use that money,and then it's understandably frustrating.But hello,when you already make loads of money,it's not like you're in big trouble economically!So why bitch and moan?Besides,I wonder if some of the big artists ever CONSIDERED the fact that file-swapping is one hell of a tool for promoting your music!If they just went on and put up a track or two on some webpage(maybe their own),they could probably increase their income significantly.No wonder Offspring wanted to throw some of their tracks out on Napster before the release of the album!Of course when we always have those who rip whole albums,it would always be easier and cheaper to dl the whole album yourself.But the fact is that a significant number of those why buy records aren't necessarily involved in file-swappping at all!In addition to that,many people(like myself)prefer to have the original package that comes with the cd when you buy it.That could also contribute to increasing the artists income.So my advice to all the artistd and producers out there has to be:instead of suing the file-swapping programs(which is pointless,since you can't stop them anyway),try using them to your adavantage!The possibilities are huge,just think for yourself!


In Norway,it has been suggested that we initiate some kind of addition to the price on cd-burners and blank cds.The income from this addition will then be distributed among the various labels(preferably the small ones,since they're the ones that are gonna need it)that could have suffered losses economically.What do you people think of that idea?There are certain problems of course,but could this be a good way to give something back to those who lose money on illegal dl'ing?

The debate continues...


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Old Post Mar-13-2002 15:49  Norway
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In Norway,it has been suggested that we initiate some kind of addition to the price on cd-burners and blank cds.The income from this addition will then be distributed among the various labels(preferably the small ones,since they're the ones that are gonna need it)that could have suffered losses economically.What do you people think of that idea?There are certain problems of course,but could this be a good way to give something back to those who lose money on illegal dl'ing?

The debate continues...


well one thing i find interesting about you saying this is - while i was in Sweden i noticed that the family i stayed with had a DVD burner. that amazed me, because here my family would just as soon NOT have a dvd player, rather than spending the money to copy them via an 800 dollar drive. it was obviously a money saving issue, and that plan could quell things in Scandinavia, but it seems like it would have little relevance here...possibly tho...late/


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Devbert
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I thought most DVD-Burners couldn't copy DVD's because of the copyright protection on the retail DVD's?

Is there a crack out already?


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i think the main source is from pirated DVDs out of Hong Kong or something...youd have to ask someone who had a burner tho/


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Devbert
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I know I read about some guy getting prosecuted for breaking the DVD Copyright Code, but I'm not sure if like any general consumer could pull it off.


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I know I read about some guy getting prosecuted for breaking the DVD Copyright Code, but I'm not sure if like any general consumer could pull it off.


then again its only a matter of time...no code is unbreakable. plus all it takes is one crack group and the internet - and booyah there goes the neighborhood! late/


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I doubt DVD copying will be very big for quite some time. At least 3-5 years.


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I doubt DVD copying will be very big for quite some time. At least 3-5 years.


well regardless, thats not even my point. it goes beyond that - the RIAA says it will support selling music via the internet if it has a controllable medium, like a new mp3. even if they could somehow gain control over a medium like this, there will always be another way of sharing, a new way to encode media. unless the major labels and companies dont start working WITH the system instead of trying to gain control over it - they fight a losing battle. (just like the drug war!) heh/


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Old Post Mar-14-2002 00:51  United States
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Devbert
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Very true.

Just like the MPAA tried to crush the VCR.

Didn't work out like they planned


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