i hate feeling like that.

fuck.

i dont know if this was al qaeda or our govt or whatever

but if it was our govt and the conspiracy whores are right im gonna cry.

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Originally posted by Temperate I don't think they edited, I just think they stopped filming for a little while. Anyways, I just got chills. Brings back some memories and emotions I haven't felt since that day.

I got the chills to - it was a terrible day in NY history

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Originally posted by Theresa It's insane to watch the smoke consume the entire city. This kind of lends some confirmation to the level of hazard in which these large buildings actually cause. If a fire starts higher up, it is INCREDIBLY hard for them to receive help, and in the event it collapses, it devastates the area for miles around. They really should reconsider the development of such large buildings, or perhaps consider a new design that can make them emergency friendly.

the problem isnt the sky-scraper so much as it was the unique design of the WTC towers. a traditional steel structure could possibly have stood for much longer allowing the fires to be fought. as it was though, the specific design meant the towers were especially vulnerable to the ensuing fires.

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it was pretty fortunate that they imploded the way they did, cant imagine if they wouldve been hit lower and fell sideways

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Originally posted by Theresa They really should reconsider the development of such large buildings, or perhaps consider a new design that can make them emergency friendly.

What year did The Towering Inferno come out? Mid-70's maybe? I remember seeing it on tv as a kid and the only part I remember is one of the fireman lamenting how tall buildings are too tall for them to put out fires. If we haven't figured it out in the 30 years since that movie was made we won't be doing it now either.

It shouldn't be an issue most of the time anyway. In a normal fire the sprinkler system would likely have taken care of things, plus there would be hoses everywhere and access for firefighters. Obviously what happened to the towers was far above and beyond a normal fire. The sprinkler systems were knocked out (and likely useless anyway with all that jet fuel) and the stairwells were inaccessable which I suppose didn't matter much anyway because fire crews didn't have time to climb that high.

This was a planned attack. The fire from the jet fuel DID NOT cause the buildings to collapse. There's several skyscrapers across the world, which sustained worse fires for longer periods of time, and are still standing today. Yet, the Twin Towers (WTC I & II) were known to be the best built skyscrapers in the world. There must have been demolition explosives in the buildings, to cause the collapse.

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i hate to say it extremum but i think i agree w/ you

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Originally posted by wizniz i hate to say it extremum but i think i agree w/ you

WW!

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Originally posted by wizniz i hate to say it extremum but i think i agree w/ you

I'd hate to think what I just said is true, but a jet fuel fire sounds too basic, for the most sophisticated buildings in the world to collapse under such circumstances.

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Originally posted by EXTREMUM This was a planned attack. The fire from the jet fuel DID NOT cause the buildings to collapse. There's several skyscrapers across the world, which sustained worse fires for longer periods of time, and are still standing today. Yet, the Twin Towers (WTC I & II) were known to be the best built skyscrapers in the world. There must have been demolition explosives in the buildings, to cause the collapse. /thread

No pun intended but prepare to get flamed


The thing with conspiracy theorists is they rely on a lot of non factual evidence and in many cases do not know what they are talking about.

I don't know if there really was a government involvement or not but in any case with what has been shown and "proven" ( aka debunked countless times ) so far has shown us nothing of substance to prove it was irrefutably a conspiracy.

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Originally posted by jdat No pun intended but prepare to get flamed The thing with conspiracy theorists is they rely on a lot of non factual evidence and in many cases do not know what they are talking about. I don't know if there really was a government involvement or not but in any case with what has been shown and "proven" ( aka debunked countless times ) so far has shown us nothing of substance to prove it was irrefutably a conspiracy.

I'm not saying the goverment was involved. Simply, terrorists can plant enough explosives inside such a large building, over a matter of years - even decades, without notice.