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Scolomon
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: NYC

treating the room wow,
what are the dimensions of an ideal room to do this in? do actual things in the roof such as furniture have any bearing on the sound after these panels are installed?


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antronx
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Hollywood, FL

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what brands are considered the industry standard as far as monitors go?


Mackie HR824
http://mackie.com/products/hr824/index.html
$1200/pair

the last monitor you'll ever need.

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RickyM
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Northern Ireland

I don't really want to spend a lot of money on acoustically treating the room, as mine is my bedroom also . All I have is isolation pads beneath the monitors (Mackie HR624 - Excellent btw).
Therefore I put on a CD of some of my favourite tracks that are superbly mixed, such as Michael Jackson, Moby, and some other stuff such as Queen, Van Morrison. The bass sounds superb and tightly controlled, so therefore if I can get the bass to sound similar on my tracks, then I know that I'm mixing accurately.
Not sure if there is much point forking out a lot for accoustic foam if you are going to buy shit monitors, so my advice (given to me by a few people such as the jew-gimp Maor Levi) is to spend as much as you can to get decent monitors the first time round.
Try to get something from these brands:

Mackie, Dynaudio, Genelec, ADAM, Quested or JBL...try looking on here:

www.dolphinmusic.co.uk . Good selection.

Hope that was some help.


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mysticalninja
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by antronx
Mackie HR824
http://mackie.com/products/hr824/index.html
$1200/pair

the last monitor you'll ever need.


I must say, you have to turn these up loud to get a good bass response, and they do rape the ears fast. I feel like I need to spend another grand on the mackie HRS120 sub that goes with them to get the most out of them.


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antronx
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Hollywood, FL

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I must say, you have to turn these up loud to get a good bass response, and they do rape the ears fast. I feel like I need to spend another grand on the mackie HRS120 sub that goes with them to get the most out of them.


What's in your sound chain? Most of the time its not your speakers, its your mixer or sound card lacking bass responce. You also need to use better cables going to your monitors. There is the difference between different type of cables. I figured the best approach, using the cable that has balanced TRS plug going into the mixer (for versatility) and balanced XLR plug into mackie. XLR plugs do have better sound responce than TRS. Call me crazy, but there is difference. You might also want to try using good quality RCA to RCA cables. Sometimes, RCA sounds better because it's Unbalanced, which means the sound goes through less sound chips inside your mixer and speaker. Balanced has to be converted into unbalanced to feed the mackie's amps. Same goes for your sound source, unbalanced has to be converted into balanced. All those steps degrade sound quality slightly.

My sound chain consists of Digi002 Rack > Mackie Onyx1620 > 2x Mackie Hr824. There is also CDJ800 going into the Onyx. Sound quality is amazing when I play well recorded classic rock CD's, like eagles or clapton. You also have to keep in mind that most of electronic music is not done in multimillion dollar recording studios and made by half-deaf DJ's. Thats why a lot of EDM sounds not well mastered, which makes your ears bleed...

But i agree with you on the subwoofer part, having flat frequency responce down to 19 Hertz gives me a hell of a hard on!

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mysticalninja
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles

I go Delta1010 soundcard -> mackie micro 1202 12 channel mixer -> hr824's. My mixer doesn't have XLR outputs or i'd use em, but I might try getting some nice RCA monster cables and using them.


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antronx
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Hollywood, FL

I've had a low bass problem with one of cheaper mackie mixers, i believe it was 1420 VLZPro, i returned it back to sam ash, paid extra and got the Onyx. Problem solved. Is It possible to connect your sound card directly into mackies? Try that. Dont waste money on monster cables, just get Hosa RCA-RCA. Its the one with fairly think wires and long shiny metal plugs. And its somewhere around $20 for 15 feet.

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mysticalninja
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I used to have it hooked up straight to my soundcard, but it's nice having the volume controll right on the mixer.


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mysticalninja
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I just connected my monitors through a Velodyne CHT-10 500$ sub with RCA and it sounds better than ever before. I can sit down and enjoy listening to music through it now. I might ebay the sub and get the HRS120, but i'm pretty satisfied with it right now


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antronx
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Hollywood, FL

Yea, the HRS120 should knock you off your feet... Its cool that its working out better for you now. I would like to get the sub myself, but i got to spend very similar dollar amount to fix my broken tooth

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