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Originally posted by Jayx1 For now yes. I tend to agree with Pitfield that there are more pressing issues in the city. The ridiculously high tax rate thats scaring people and business away for one. The panhandling problem for another. Leave the gardiner alone for now. Lets fix things that need fixing instead of just asthetics pleasing ideas. BTW the real "wall" to the lakefront is not a highway that people can easily walk under. Its the wall of condos that border the lake with no public access. Why does everyone seem to miss that point? I support the viaduct option the most but right now we simply cant afford any of it.

you have got to be fucking kidding me. You think the "panhandling problem" is a pressing issue?

wow. THANK GOD you are not on city council...

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Originally posted by MarkT you have got to be fucking kidding me. You think the "panhandling problem" is a pressing issue? wow. THANK GOD you are not on city council...

its a problem when you walk down the street and get asked 5 times by meth addicts for spare change. It affects tourism greatly. Its even mentioned in the lonely planet for god sake!

But yeah its far down the list but def higher priority than the gardiner

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by smuncky btw, this is where i found the link to it, http://spacing.ca/wire/?p=1121 spacing really has some interesting articles now and again. i encourage everyone to visit it sometime if they are interested in our city.

i love spacing .. they really do provide some insightful articles..

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Originally posted by Time2Burn I agree. Its a monstrosity. A 6 lane road? Well yeah i guess something needs to replace the thoughrofare. Maybe some public transit would help aswell? Lemme get something straight mr TOTA PM. You want waterfront improvemnt but think the gardiner should stay?

+1. It is a monstrosity! And big ups for more public transporation!! Its a difficult situation and decision to make, and hopefully a decision will be made keeping in mind of our waterfront, which we are oh so lucky to have and continuesly take advantage of. Booo pollution!!

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Originally posted by Beach420 +1. It is a monstrosity! And big ups for more public transporation!! Its a difficult situation and decision to make, and hopefully a decision will be made keeping in mind of our waterfront, which we are oh so lucky to have and continuesly take advantage of. Booo pollution!!

public transportation is very important.

BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF AN ALREADY WEAK ROAD SYSTEM. We must have a balanced approach. You will never convince everyone to leave the car at home. It wont happen.

Improve transit AND highways.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

I know he's a good DJ and all...but what does Sean know about city planning?...sounds fishy to me

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Originally posted by Jayx1 its a problem when you walk down the street and get asked 5 times by meth addicts for spare change. It affects tourism greatly. Its even mentioned in the lonely planet for god sake! But yeah its far down the list but def higher priority than the gardiner

To me panhandling is not the problem it is their addiction to meth.

So we should throw em in jail with 2nd offence drunk drivers right? LOL.

There are better ways to deal with social issues/problems then ruling with an iron fist. We leave that to Swamper.

burying it is a good idea, but the problem is that they are looking to Boston for inspiration, and their "Big Dig" project has been a huge flop/problem.

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Originally posted by Orko burying it is a good idea, but the problem is that they are looking to Boston for inspiration, and their "Big Dig" project has been a huge flop/problem.

massive cost and time overruns.. we're talkin into the billions here.. not to mention someone recently having been killed due to falling concrete and debris ..

burrying it is not an easy solution as it is likely the most costly option our there not to mention the years of traffic disruption that it would cause as noted in the Viaduct plan ..

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lol.. i just added a comment on the Star's article feedback about the lack of the Viaduct being mentioned as an alternative..

you too can do the same!

http://www.thestar.com/cgi-bin/star...7_gardiner.html

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