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Originally posted by Jayx1 Met this "italian" girl who said that italians arent latin... uh... yeah ok... LOL! I didnt even dare ask her what part of italy she was from (probably woodbridge!) hahahah

one, The title should be person, not people.

And two how one goes about defining their person and their worldview is entirely up to their choosing. If someone wants to consider themselves a product of Italian parents, in a Toronto, who surrounds themselves within a unicultural friends and family cirle is their choice.

What differance does it make if someone was born here or not, sure there are people who play off like they are god gifts to their parents homeland, and then there are those, of which there are many who actually study, understand, practise and perpetuate the cultural of their previous generations.

hmmm.. The "jewish" people...now again, unlike your generalistion, I will not peg all people as guilty of this but there are plently within your little realm of theory within this cultural group who are guilty of this....driving down Bayview, seeing posters for UJA....that is unreal to me, I dont need to see that......where does that fall in your logic...or the fact that Jewish people play off that they are Jewish yet they have not practised their relgion in years...so then they fall on the a-religious side of the Jewish people, yet again they know NOTHING about it, NOTHING....(apparently I am allowwed to cite 1 person and generalise) one of my female "jewish" friends...we laugh when she tells people that she is Jewish...she never goes to synagogue, she proclaims that she would never date/marry a jewish guy, she does not speak the lanuage, cannot read....yet when asked she says she is Jewish....


anyways...to be "Canadian" is a term which, like considering oneself, for example to be Italian, is again entirly up to their own choice, it is how each individual defines themselves. If it bothers you that we as a society dont wake up and pledge allegence to our flag...get over it or better yet move to the States.

Your statement and generalisations are tactless and ignorant and this thread is borderline....

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I didnt even dare ask her what part of italy she was from (probably woodbridge!) hahahah

Woodbridge is not in Italy, it is in Woodbridge, Ontario.

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 Woodbridge is not in Italy, it is in Woodbridge, Ontario.

that was the point of the joke

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 one, The title should be person, not people.

except that i have conversations like this all the time with such people.

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And two how one goes about defining their person and their worldview is entirely up to their choosing. If someone wants to consider themselves a product of Italian parents, in a Toronto, who surrounds themselves within a unicultural friends and family cirle is their choice.

agreed.. but do yourself a favour and educate yourself on that culture first of all. And second, dont use the word canadian as an insult when you happen to be one yourself.

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What differance does it make if someone was born here or not, sure there are people who play off like they are god gifts to their parents homeland, and then there are those, of which there are many who actually study, understand, practise and perpetuate the cultural of their previous generations.

Its cool to take pride in your heritage, but not at the expense of your home country (canada) and others who share canada as their identity. Just like i want Canadians to learn from the good ideas of other cultures and vice versa. Understanding a diverse culture is important.

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[hmmm.. The "jewish" people...now again, unlike your generalistion, I will not peg all people as guilty of this but there are plently within your little realm of theory within this cultural group who are guilty of this....driving down Bayview, seeing posters for UJA....that is unreal to me, I dont need to see that......where does that fall in your logic...or the fact that Jewish people play off that they are Jewish yet they have not practised their relgion in years...so then they fall on the a-religious side of the Jewish people, yet again they know NOTHING about it, NOTHING....(apparently I am allowwed to cite 1 person and generalise) one of my female "jewish" friends...we laugh when she tells people that she is Jewish...she never goes to synagogue, she proclaims that she would never date/marry a jewish guy, she does not speak the lanuage, cannot read....yet when asked she says she is Jewish....

so you basically are saying that you understand my arguement about people pretending to be something they are not. So whats the problem?

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anyways...to be "Canadian" is a term which, like considering oneself, for example to be Italian, is again entirly up to their own choice, it is how each individual defines themselves. If it bothers you that we as a society dont wake up and pledge allegence to our flag...get over it or better yet move to the States.

again, its the fact that these people eat breathe and live canadian yet put others down for identifying themselves as canadian. Woodbridge is hilarious for this. There is nothing more Canadian than living in a house with a big backyard, driving and SUV and shopping at a mall yet those people have the nerve to put down "Canadians" because they arent "european" enough. It boggles my mind.

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Your statement and generalisations are tactless and ignorant and this thread is borderline....

your statement about your "jewish" friend is almost identical to the statement i made about the "italian"

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

holy quoting batman

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 one, The title should be person, not people. And two how one goes about defining their person and their worldview is entirely up to their choosing. If someone wants to consider themselves a product of Italian parents, in a Toronto, who surrounds themselves within a unicultural friends and family cirle is their choice. What differance does it make if someone was born here or not, sure there are people who play off like they are god gifts to their parents homeland, and then there are those, of which there are many who actually study, understand, practise and perpetuate the cultural of their previous generations. hmmm.. The "jewish" people...now again, unlike your generalistion, I will not peg all people as guilty of this but there are plently within your little realm of theory within this cultural group who are guilty of this....driving down Bayview, seeing posters for UJA....that is unreal to me, I dont need to see that......where does that fall in your logic...or the fact that Jewish people play off that they are Jewish yet they have not practised their relgion in years...so then they fall on the a-religious side of the Jewish people, yet again they know NOTHING about it, NOTHING....(apparently I am allowwed to cite 1 person and generalise) one of my female "jewish" friends...we laugh when she tells people that she is Jewish...she never goes to synagogue, she proclaims that she would never date/marry a jewish guy, she does not speak the lanugage, cannot read....yet when asked she says she is Jewish.... anyways...to be "Canadian" is a term which, like considering oneself, for example to be Italian, is again entirly up to their own choice, it is how each individual defines themselves. If it bothers you that we as a society dont wake up and pledge allegence to our flag...get over it or better yet move to the States. Your statement and generalisations are tactless and ignorant and this thread is borderline....

First off, it should be people because there is more than one person in this country who is completely ignorant of their culture and yet claim to be from that country.

Second, how is this thread borderline anything? Yeah it's annoying when people who are born into your country, claim your nationality, use your country's medical care system, etc turn around and say "Well I'm not Canadian, I'm ...". No you're not. You're not Italian, you have a Canadian passport, you take advantage of everything Canada has to offer, you/your parents are born here, YOU ARE CANADIAN.

Why do people insist on denying that fact? Should I ever become Canadian, I would say I am Canadian. I will tell my kids their background is Belgian but would make it quite clear that this is their country.

(And btw last i checked, being Jewish means you practice Judaism which is a religion. Completely different topic.)

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Originally posted by loca First off, it should be people because there is more than one person in this country who is completely ignorant of their culture and yet claim to be from that country. Second, how is this thread borderline anything? Yeah it's annoying when people who are born into your country, claim your nationality, use your country's medical care system, etc turn around and say "Well I'm not Canadian, I'm ...". No you're not. You're not Italian, you have a Canadian passport, you take advantage of everything Canada has to offer, you/your parents are born here, YOU ARE CANADIAN. Why do people insist on denying that fact? Should I ever become Canadian, I would say I am Canadian. I will tell my kids their background is Belgian but would make it quite clear that this is their country. (And btw last i checked, being Jewish means you practice Judaism which is a religion. Completely different topic.)

How would you feel if you met a full on canadian who insisted they were belgian? I bet it would rightly piss you off wouldnt it? But, according to "italians", belgians arent european like they are LOL

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 How would you feel if you met a full on canadian who insisted they were belgian? I bet it would rightly piss you off wouldnt it? But, according to "italians", belgians arent european like they are LOL

BUAHAHAHAHAHA well they can bite me! That's like saying France isn't European. There's a reason we have the European Parliament in Brussels. What a bunch of fucktards.

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Originally posted by loca BUAHAHAHAHAHA well they can bite me! That's like saying France isn't European. There's a reason we have the European Parliament in Brussels. What a bunch of fucktards.

next time an "italian" tries to tell you that you arent european enough, just pull out that map where it shows italy as part of the byzantine and ottoman empire and explain to them that they are dark because the byzantines raped their ancestors. That will shut them up!

hahaha

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

educate yourself as much as possible, i know a hell of a lot about croatian history, but im sure there's still things out there i dont know. we're constantly learning.

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Originally posted by MikeyN educate yourself as much as possible, i know a hell of a lot about croatian history, but im sure there's still things out there i dont know. we're constantly learning.

agreed!

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 next time an "italian" tries to tell you that you arent european enough, just pull out that map where it shows italy as part of the byzantine and ottoman empire and explain to them that they are dark because the byzantines raped their ancestors. That will shut them up! hahaha

I laugh. You are pathetic and offensive.

I was going to get in it with you but you are not worth my time, you are not constructive, you are offensive.

I had said that this thread was borderline...it has now crossed that line.

Ciao.