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Originally posted by Jeremy H I don't understand why people dont seem to work the mids that much. They are usually great for avoiding clashing melodies when the tracks aren't in key etc.

thats pretty much all their good for though...bringing melodies in and out.

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Originally posted by Jeremy H I don't understand why people dont seem to work the mids that much. They are usually great for avoiding clashing melodies when the tracks aren't in key etc.

Just have to be carefull using them because they are the life of the track, i mainly use the gain, faders, and lows to mix.. sometimes ill cut the highs a tiny bit if they're clashing.

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster thats pretty much all their good for though...bringing melodies in and out.

Yeah, but like he said, if the melodies clash then you dont really want them riding together. It's better to keep the incoming track's melody low and just swapping them when you are ready like you would with the bass. If done correctly you can still make it a sick/smooth transition.

LOL I can't remember ever touching the hi EQ's when mixing. I'm a freak!!

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Originally posted by starboy Just have to be carefull using them because they are the life of the track, i mainly use the gain, faders, and lows to mix.. sometimes ill cut the highs a tiny bit if they're clashing.

True. But it's rare for me to do change track without touching the mids.. But i've noticed that the way I work the EQs, i would probably be better off with a rotary mixer At least when mixing trance or house..

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I start off by SLOWLY turning the lows down on the track that is playing thru the main speakers, then bring in the cued up track, get it to where I can hear it thru the booth speakers, then depending on how muck different the lows are between the 2 tracks, slowly swap the lows. I try to start the new track off during the breakdown of the track that is playing on the system. That way I don't have to do much adjusting with the mids and the highs. I do a little adjusting with them but not much. Starting your cued up track off during the begining of the breakdown of the track that is playing on the speakers lets the track that your bringing in build while the other one is breaking down. Sounds really cool, and keeps the energy up. But, depending on the track itself, (like some people already said here) it really depends. Sometimes I have to do a quick swap with the lows, or the whole track itself. Like they said, you HAVE to know your music. You HAVE to have a good track selection. You HAVE to keep the energy up.

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Originally posted by Zild If the melodies clash don't mix those songs together. Dhurrrr!

Sure, but sometimes the tracks are in key, but there's some kind of annoying element in the track that you want to temporarly get rid of. Sometimes even vocals.. Adjusting the mids gives you more freedom imo

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Originally posted by Jeremy H Sure, but sometimes the tracks are in key, but there's some kind of annoying element in the track that you want to temporarly get rid of. Sometimes even vocals.. Adjusting the mids gives you more freedom imo

Could be an accidental element or something to do with the actual scale that's being used.
But if you are getting that much interferance from a melody you are probably not mixing at a particullarly well chosed spot. It becomes more a crow bar style mix.
Can still be very effective so not to be taken out of the repetoire.

Melodies on top of each other don't very often sound good, unless you know which frequency range they occupy. As a producer you may decide to create frequency gaps for them, sort it out with a compressor or use panning. As a DJ you don't have this luxury.

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Originally posted by Jeremy H Sure, but sometimes the tracks are in key, but there's some kind of annoying element in the track that you want to temporarly get rid of. Sometimes even vocals.. Adjusting the mids gives you more freedom imo

True but I find if you pick your tracks properly that you almost never need to use the mids.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Could be an accidental element or something to do with the actual scale that's being used. But if you are getting that much interferance from a melody you are probably not mixing at a particullarly well chosed spot. It becomes more a crow bar style mix. Can still be very effective so not to be taken out of the repetoire. Melodies on top of each other don't very often sound good, unless you know which frequency range they occupy. As a producer you may decide to create frequency gaps for them, sort it out with a compressor or use panning. As a DJ you don't have this luxury. Cheers Nem

I totally agree
It's just nice to have that freedom too. It can sound really nice to just brind in the high or low of a track before the mid etc, just to variate your style. But like i wrote before, I've noticed that I often use the EQs like a rotary mixer when doing long smooth mixes.

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Originally posted by Jeremy H I totally agree It's just nice to have that freedom too. It can sound really nice to just brind in the high or low of a track before the mid etc, just to variate your style. But like i wrote before, I've noticed that I often use the EQs like a rotary mixer when doing long smooth mixes.

thats similiar to my style as well...eq's just serve so well for the longer blends or for mashups etc etc