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Originally posted by extulas Ok, Reason was made by a crappy band. Propellerheads are so bad, And they use all that software.

propellerheads is the company, a devision of Midiman, its not a band!

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono nevermind, I learned alot from Reason, and have transfered those skills to use my hardware. Because using reason first, I figured out all the controlls and settings of my supernova within a day! and reason is a decent program anyways, you just have to know how to use it. ..

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Originally posted by extulas The only computer application I ever touch is Cool Edit. ANd thats to record records. How can you learn anything from a computer, And then go use real equptment? And yes, Fruity loops, Look at the name, It explains it all. Their is no reason for me to tell you why reason sucks. And Cubase has a bad interface. Confussing.

Actually, I learned how to beatmatch using Virtual Turntables, then when I bought my techs, only took me a few hours to learn how to beatmatch.

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono propellerheads is the company, a devision of Midiman, its not a band!

WHAT THE?! Thier a swedish band! How the hell do you know what your talking about?!

No, propellerheads is the company that actually made the software... a seperate entity from the band you speak of.

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Originally posted by extulas The only computer application I ever touch is Cool Edit. ANd thats to record records. How can you learn anything from a computer, And then go use real equptment? And yes, Fruity loops, Look at the name, It explains it all. Their is no reason for me to tell you why reason sucks. And Cubase has a bad interface. Confussing.

Cubase doesn't have a "bad interface". It might be confusing, but that's because it's intricate and complex. It's not made for little amatures that loop preset patterns on their cheap ass hardware and think that's a song. Cubase, among calkwalk products, Logic, and ProTools are found in virtually every decent studio, professional or otherwise....period. You ask how people can learn from a computer...this doesn't make much sense. I suppose you're refering to using a computer in lieu on hardware, but realize that LOTS of producers use computers to sequence and master tracks at very least.

Whats the point of it then? They dont make anything easier. Part of music is being frustrated. Frustration makes the best music. You get mad at something, So you make it better. Doesnt nakle much sense to let a computer do the work for you.

The computer doesn't make music for you. Getting frustrated at gear (soft or hard) also doesn't help my music.

You can use the PC as an instrument. What's wrong with that. It has a keyboard and a display and a mouse. If you would take them away and add rack ears and some knobs and an LCD on it and label it "sequencer/hard disk recorder" would that make it better in your opinion?

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[B]No, propellerheads is the company that actually made the software... a seperate entity from the band you speak of.


Actually propellerheads made rebirth and recycle themselves. They know all this technical computers stuff and wrote it so they could make noises for their tunes. Maybe midiman brought out them for reason or something. I read it in a interview with fm about 4 years ago.

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Originally posted by Pjotr G The computer doesn't make music for you. Getting frustrated at gear (soft or hard) also doesn't help my music. You can use the PC as an instrument. What's wrong with that. It has a keyboard and a display and a mouse. If you would take them away and add rack ears and some knobs and an LCD on it and label it "sequencer/hard disk recorder" would that make it better in your opinion?

Yes, Yes it would.

Why? because it then has crossed the magical border between hard-and software?

There's a cool rack device out there, the SoundArt Chameleon. It's a rack unit with a LCD display and a couple of knobs and a DSP chip. But it doesn nothing, you have to write programs for it yourself (or get hold of them) and load them into the machine (via midi dump for cryin out loud). So you can make it what u want, a synth, or a delay, or a distortion unit. The gray area between softsynths and hardsynths is increasing. What do you think about machines like this? good because you can rack mount it? It's C++ program, you can just as well put it in a VST.

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Originally posted by extulas I am waiting to hear opinions 1) Fruity Loops 2) Virtual Turntables. 3) Reason 4) Acid 5) Cakewalk 6) GOldwav 7) Cubase 8) Recycle

U, my friend, suck major rear...

[Dan]

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Originally posted by D_G U, my friend, suck major rear... [Dan]

Excuse me for being orginal. And not being a trendy kiddie who loops track after track of a Paul Van Dyk song. Excuse me for actually takeing time to make my music sound good. Sorry for haveing miney to actually buy instruments...And haveing parents and a girlfriend who buy me instruments