If God created bananas then why didn't he create them so they could grow in my country (argued by most people to be the "Promised Land" Moses was actually looking for before he got lazy and settled in Israel)???

Nuff said

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Originally posted by Krypton rant, you say? why so defensive?

Defensive? Are you joking? Man put down that crack pipe hehe. Also, i'm more or less sure it's been established where the banana came from, and also that many species feed off of it, and that its not present in the whole world. So saying that god fined tuned the banana specifically for us human is dumb regardless of it being expounded from a theistic point of view. And yes, what you wrote is a rant because there is no good reason to defend that clown for making such a stupid argument, what you're trying to do is push in your on views disguising them as some sort of "argument" in favour of spewing stupid ideas just because you believe in "god".

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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This is great.

I can't wait to learn in their next episode how the banana proves that Jesus Christ is our lord and savior and that Christianity is the only true religion!


Ohh the suspense is killing me!!

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Yea, I saw this the other night...

My thought was, out of all the fruits out there, what if this just happens to be a coincidence?

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id like to know how you atheists explain this then



i always thought religion was shit, now we have proof!

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It is a rather interesting way of describing the banana. Coming from a christian background, I completely see where he is coming from. That's stems from my assumption that a divine being exists. So, I'm going to come to his defense, even if he sounds a little like he's trying too hard.

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Originally posted by occrider So it would appear that your arguments indicate that one can never be so comfortable in their position, with the wherewithal that they have factual supportive documentation to substantiate their claims, such that they can freely denigrate the arguments of others should they lack said substance. Is that what you're arguing? How's Santa Clause doing?

Agree to disagree. I believe there is evidence for both sides, depending on where you start. A belief in the supernatural, or not.

I don't believe in Santa Claus

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Defensive? Are you joking? Man put down that crack pipe hehe. Also, i'm more or less sure it's been established where the banana came from, and also that many species feed off of it, and that its not present in the whole world. So saying that god fined tuned the banana specifically for us human is dumb regardless of it being expounded from a theistic point of view. And yes, what you wrote is a rant because there is no good reason to defend that clown for making such a stupid argument, what you're trying to do is push in your on views disguising them as some sort of "argument" in favour of spewing stupid ideas just because you believe in "god".

I wasn't argueing the merits of christianity or a banana. I was argueing against close-mindedness. That was my entire point. I got tired of being called close-minded simply because I believe in absolutes, so I'm going to call it out. If I can be critisized by like 10 people in every thread, certainly you can take a little from me.

Nothing wrong with constructive criticism, as I take to heart what some have critisized me for, and don't ever take it personally, even if someone means it personally..

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Originally posted by Krypton It is a rather interesting way of describing the banana. Coming from a christian background, I completely see where he is coming from. That's stems from my assumption that a divine being exists. So, I'm going to come to his defense, even if he sounds a little like he's trying too hard.

why is it interesting? why is it evidence of anything at all? should we point at all the other things that humans eat that don't fit into the human hand in such a fashion? its an idiotic argument that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. its evidence of nothing.

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Originally posted by Krypton I wasn't argueing the merits of christianity or a banana. I was argueing against close-mindedness. That was my entire point. I got tired of being called close-minded simply because I believe in absolutes, so I'm going to call it out. If I can be critisized by like 10 people in every thread, certainly you can take a little from me. Nothing wrong with constructive criticism, as I take to heart what some have critisized me for, and don't ever take it personally, even if someone means it personally..

You see, thats where you got it wrong. You are not doing any constructive criticism. We are bashing that guy, because it's a ridiculous way of describing a banana, albeit apparently interesting for you (which i suspect its a charade anyways). If it were something where there was space to debate its origin, uses, etc.. then you would have a valid point. But i sincerely doubt that there's any wiggle room to describe the origins of a banana in any other way then what it is, unless you're a 3 year old, maybe. Taking this into account, your "constructive criticism" is uncalled for, and has no basis. You're (and you've just admitted it) basically just lashing it out because you believe people here have wronged you, and you're mad. So again, i stand by my point that you're "constructive criticism" is nothing more than a rant.

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

Well, if it weren't interesting, there wouldn't be a thread about it...

Again, you miss my entire point. I'm not argueing the merits of his beliefs.

So, I'm lashing out because I feel like I've been wronged?

This entire thread is lashing out against religion, by the very group of people (naturalist) who claim to be open-minded. What I'm getting at is this; the bashing will lead to hatred, which stems from close-mindedness. That's my criticism.

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Originally posted by Krypton Well, if it weren't interesting, there wouldn't be a thread about it...

there isnt a thread because it is of interest, theres a thread to highlight the lack of intellectualy inquiry behind creationism.

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Originally posted by Krypton This entire thread is lashing out against religion, by the very group of people (naturalist) who claim to be open-minded. What I'm getting at is this; the bashing will lead to hatred, which stems from close-mindedness. That's my criticism.

arguing that its a ridiculous position to equate the human hand & banana with god does not make someone narrow minded.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN arguing that its a ridiculous position to equate the human hand & banana with god does not make someone narrow minded.

You aren't argueing though. You are just labelling all people who believe in a higher power 'shit' in your own words.

Kirk Cameron is one of the most fundamentalist evangelicals that I know of. The more extreme one's views, the more extreme the explanations have to be when one tries to defend them.