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ZeJayMan
the farthammer



Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Glasgow

Some of the warm up dj's i've seen have played far more interesting and audibly pleasing songs than the main event dj's. Scot Project for example was much better than Marco V when I seen him warming up the dancefloor.


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Johan (DJ Irish)
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Malmööööö!

A good opener is worth his wait in gold...alsmost

It's usually a very ungreatful job, except for those last 30 minutes when the floor should be jumpin'. Little pay, not much recognition. But yet it's so important for the overall vibe of the night.

Today it feels lika a lost art to open properly. Too many, usually new and young promoters, put them selves or their friends as opener, completely ignoring the fact that these people only, and I repeat only, spin something like Hard Style or something similar.


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farley
Sword of Destiny



Registered: Aug 2002
Location: The Gothic Asshole

I completely agree (and laughed hard at the comment in West Coast, lol) but generally local djs that warm up in Denver are so bad we skip them as much as possible. Ex: Playing Because We Can just prior to JZ getting on, Aftermath, Mouth to Mouth, etc...and when they're not dropping rediculously big tracks the flow is the worst shit I've heard in my life, honestly.

The only good dj we had for opening (who just started getting good in the last 6 months, prior he was really, really shit) just left for Berlin, so we're kinda boned here now...his replacement is nothing short of horrible, not to mention still playing tracks the last resident was for 3+ mos each night out

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simonbostock
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: London Acid City

From past experiences, a lot of the "Pro" dj's have clauses in their contracts that say the previous warmup DJ are not allowed to go any higher than a certain BPM.

And generally speaking, promoters have to give the warm up DJ's a bitching hard time if they're bringing the tempo up too much, as the line up DJ of the night gets quite upset if the BPM is too fast.

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Groundhog Boy
Stupidity Offends Me



Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY

quote:
Originally posted by farley
The only good dj we had for opening (who just started getting good in the last 6 months, prior he was really, really shit) just left for Berlin, so we're kinda boned here now

Little Mike?

quote:
Originally posted by Johan (DJ Irish)
A good opener is worth his wait in gold...alsmost

It's usually a very ungreatful job, except for those last 30 minutes when the floor should be jumpin'. Little pay, not much recognition. But yet it's so important for the overall vibe of the night.

Today it feels lika a lost art to open properly. Too many, usually new and young promoters, put them selves or their friends as opener, completely ignoring the fact that these people only, and I repeat only, spin something like Hard Style or something similar.

+1


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ThomasNeil
Tom Bailey



Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Wolverhampton, England

Always need a good DJ to kick things off, Jon O'Bir is a fantastic DJ at performing this, he's opened for Armin, PvD et al & even Sasha, he has a great diversity which allows him to change things up, a quality that every resident should have.

James Algate, Paul Thomas & Chris Salt are also quality opening DJs


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Psy-T
Melody Klein



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

in my experience, good warm up djs are generally better than good headliners.

p.s.
due to lack of trust in the skills and understandings of the average dj, i much prefer playing the entire night myself from begining to end.


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chesco
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Glasgow

This is slightly retarded?

Of course all the big dj's know how to play a warm up set. the likleyhood is they've all been small time at one point in their life and had to do the very job.

The warm up dj's job is first and foremost to kill time until a crowd builds up.

I mean why pay tiesto £2000 for 2 hours (note: I'm not saying he gets paid that, i'm just putting a figure out there as an example) playing to an empty hall, when you could have some local dj do it more than likely for free.

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bas
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Here I Am Baby

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
p.s.
due to lack of trust in the skills and understandings of the average dj, i much prefer playing the entire night myself from beginning to end.

Heh, sounds a little pretentious no? Myself I can't stand when the openers play banging big room stuff at 11 before the night even starts. Avalon is notorious for having opener djs that do this, hate it! This one guy...Casey something, opened for Nic Fanciulli and played quite horribly, the tracks weren't "bad" per se, but geez...talk about lack of flow.


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Psy-T
Melody Klein



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
I mean why pay tiesto £2000 for 2 hours (note: I'm not saying he gets paid that, i'm just putting a figure out there as an example) playing to an empty hall, when you could have some local dj do it more than likely for free.


because when a headliner (especially as known as tiesto) gets booked to play the entire night, that very fact is used to promote the event further.
most people avoid the warm up djs they don't know, not the warm up slot.


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Psy-T
Melody Klein



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
Heh, sounds a little pretentious no?


naturally, yeah... but it's not like i don't 'walk the walk'.

note: i am aware this post is even more pretentious than the one it is discussing


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

Bad opening DJ's make me mad.


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