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tiesto14
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Registered: Oct 2001
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nice.....cant get old for me


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Nucleogenesis
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: A State In Trance
Smiley DJ what the heck..

quote:
Originally posted by Barf
Noooooooooooooo....
I can't believe how many of you love the vocals. They totally ruin the tune. They are there in a sort of Who Do You Love Now? way so that the cheese lovers don't get bored....

I think the original is a superb track. But those vocals....why God, why?????????


what do u mean cheesy.....
THis is not one of those rave songs to make u sweaty this is mind blowing song to chill to..
I Love both original and Vocal but to say its cheesy...
Iio Rapture is the real cheese which many djs use these days.
THe vocals are written by sasha so if u think this is cheesy YOu are saying that sasha is a cheese maker.

Old Post Mar-23-2002 21:34  United States
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biznology
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Registered: Dec 2000
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yeah id have to disagree on thhe cheese factor. just cause it HAS vocals doesnt make it cheesy. thhis isnt Tocas Miracle remember. i think the vocals are beautiful, well written and take you on a journey. most trance vocals sound good but dont mean anything - these elevate you higher. plus like i said - the first part is awesome prog, and then it switched to epic vocals, the best of both worlds! late/

Old Post Mar-23-2002 21:39  United States
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TranceSeeker
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Genk

OMG cant believe some say these vocals are cheese????
WTF, if this is cheese then whats
aqua - barbie girl then??
Thats a masterpiece for you huh?


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Old Post Mar-24-2002 00:31  Belgium
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Barf
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Scotland

I think the vocals do add a large slab of cheese to the track.
The reason I used Who Do You Love Now? as my example is because it is in a very similar situation. Riva's Stringer was a really good track, but when those God awful vocals got plumped on top, it was there soley for making money and it was soooooooooooo cheesey (hell, still is cos its never off the radio).
Perception was a perfect track I think. A true classic. But the added vocals ruin it for 2 reasons:
1) They add nothing to the track. They are just there for the people who can't have a song they can't sing along to (and I don't mean people who only like music with singing, but Perception doesn't have a big melody you go around singing.)
2) Whenever I listen to the original which I loved, I start to sing the vocals in my head, and it takes away the enjoyment.

Don't get me wrong, I am a big lover tracks with vocals. For example, I love:
Starecase - Faith (Loafer Mix)
Slam ft Tyrone 'Visionary' Palmer - Lifetimes (Original Mix)
Ernesto vs Bastian - Lonely People (Mix 1)

But in those the vocals add something. In Perception the vocals only detract
Which is a sad think.....

Also, I suspect that most people who like the vocal mix probably didn't really enjoy the original too much....


One more thing: I was surprised when Nucleogenesis said Perception was a "mind blowing song to chill to". For me, this is the sort of song I would (or would have) gone mental on a dance floor to. It packs so much energy, but in a deceptive way. I wouldn't be surprised if a few peoples heads exploded while dancing to it

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Barf
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Scotland

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker
WTF, if this is cheese then whats
aqua - barbie girl then??

Europop.
But we are talking about trance.

Old Post Mar-24-2002 00:38  Scotland
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TranceSeeker
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Genk

quote:
Originally posted by Barf
I think the vocals do add a large slab of cheese to the track.
The reason I used Who Do You Love Now? as my example is because it is in a very similar situation. Riva's Stringer was a really good track, but when those God awful vocals got plumped on top, it was there soley for making money and it was soooooooooooo cheesey (hell, still is cos its never off the radio).
Perception was a perfect track I think. A true classic. But the added vocals ruin it for 2 reasons:
1) They add nothing to the track. They are just there for the people who can't have a song they can't sing along to (and I don't mean people who only like music with singing, but Perception doesn't have a big melody you go around singing.)
2) Whenever I listen to the original which I loved, I start to sing the vocals in my head, and it takes away the enjoyment.

Don't get me wrong, I am a big lover tracks with vocals. For example, I love:
Starecase - Faith (Loafer Mix)
Slam ft Tyrone 'Visionary' Palmer - Lifetimes (Original Mix)
Ernesto vs Bastian - Lonely People (Mix 1)

But in those the vocals add something. In Perception the vocals only detract
Which is a sad think.....

Also, I suspect that most people who like the vocal mix probably didn't really enjoy the original too much....


One more thing: I was surprised when Nucleogenesis said Perception was a "mind blowing song to chill to". For me, this is the sort of song I would (or would have) gone mental on a dance floor to. It packs so much energy, but in a deceptive way. I wouldn't be surprised if a few peoples heads exploded while dancing to it


Nice writing mate but I've one short answer to that all

THE VOCAL IS AWSOME no matter who you are or what you say!!!!


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Old Post Mar-24-2002 00:43  Belgium
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TranceSeeker
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Genk

and starecase - faith (loafer remix) is Awsome to indeed


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Old Post Mar-24-2002 00:45  Belgium
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Barf
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Scotland

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker
THE VOCAL IS AWSOME no matter who you are or what you say!!!!

Well it's just different tastes. And there is no way a discussion can change what someone likes.
I'm sure there are many people who will say that the vocals for Who Do You Love Now? are awesome too, but I certainly, and hopefuly you too wouldn't agree.

A lot of people who like progressive music look down on people who like more cheesy songs. I think that is pathetic, I can understand why so many people prefer it with vocals....
This has turned into a bit of an argument, but there is no right or wrong....
I suppose we need to leave it that not everyone likes the same things

Old Post Mar-24-2002 00:52  Scotland
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TranceSeeker
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Genk

Hey U have a point there that progressive fans look down to other people, I had that period too hehe, but I love it all now

And the stringer -> It was a nice track but the vocals killed it yeah


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Old Post Mar-24-2002 00:55  Belgium
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Dragon17
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Registered: Nov 2000
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I reccon that song rules mad vocals with nice build up, if anyone knows any other songs like it plz tell me =)

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DJ Fien
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Registered: May 2001
Location: St. Louis, MO

The instrumental version is the original I believe. And no, it was not produced by Sasha...according to the credits it was written and produced by Pete Martin & Cass Cutbrush.

Old Post Mar-24-2002 06:46  United States
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